Ron Resnick Launches Audio Cafe LLC, a New Clarisys Audio Dealer

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I think Florian meant by x-max the excursion of the ribbon in the magnetic field, not the weight.
 
Late today I moved the Clarisys loudspeakers to the left side wall.

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Congratulation Ron!

I definitely like your decision to move over to the professional sales side of the High End world.
Your personal contacts to the industry will enhance your product portfolio on offer easily,
even if you do not want to go this step soon, your potential upcoming customer base will ask you to do so,
as they will like and trust your competence in this regard.

As you can see in my new signature, I did recently a similar step,
as more and more people were asking for advice and sourcing recommandations,
and following the growing customer interest and demand my products on offer listening has increased faster than planned.

I like, that you are still listening preferable with your Gryphon speakers, a product which is not on current offer @Gryphon,
which shows, that your listening room is mainly hobby and not business focussed.

Same here, the most of my personal system (Avalon Osiris speakers, Acoustic Arts Mono V amps, Invictus jr turntable and more) is not part of my dealer product offering and follows pure hobby purposes and not business plan needs.

Enjoy your upcoming customer visits, hopefully new interesting contacts and listening hours will happen accordingly :)
 
Greetings from the UK, Mr Resnick - welcome to the Clarisys family
 
Late today I moved the Clarisys loudspeakers to the left side wall.

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Ron, how wide apart are the speakers? And distance to seating? I know pics can be deceiving.

Just an fyi, when positioning mine, I spent time getting the bass right first ( played pink noise and used analyzer app to do crude placement) then refined from there. Set up Studios and Minuets this way and it worked pretty well. Don’t know if this is best way to do it, but it worked for me.

I know you have a lot more experience than me in settting up speakers. I’d be interested in how you start the process.
 
Late today I moved the Clarisys loudspeakers to the left side wall.

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Ron, good idea to separate the two speakers. Are the cables running over the floor behind that couch on the left? How does the new configuration sound?

It looks like it might be kind of tough to get into your kitchen to cook eggs for breakfast.
 
Ron, good idea to separate the two speakers.
I agree. But hearing the depth afforded by having the 2 feet further into the room (2 feet further away from the front wall) made me want to pull the Pendragons 2 feet further into the room.
Are the cables running over the floor behind that couch on the left?

yes
How does the new configuration sound?

Good! The sound-staging definitely is more natural. The Clarisys are about 4 3/4 feet into the room presently.
It looks like it might be kind of tough to get into your kitchen to cook eggs for breakfast.

Actually, we never enter the kitchen from the listening room.
 
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Yesterday I hosted six local audio friends, two of whom have present or past professional audio or professional musician backgrounds. After brief listens at AXPONA last year a lot of people were curious to hear Clarisys loudspeakers leisurely in a home environment.

I like to begin listening to planar dipole loudspeakers parallel to the front wall. But with Clarisys everybody who has recommended toe-in was correct. With toe-in resolution increases and natural detail increases with no increase in brightness or edginess.

I have about 45 hours on the speakers now.
 
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I like to begin listening to planar dipole loudspeakers parallel to the front wall. But with Clarisys everybody who has recommended toe-in was correct. With toe-in resolution increases and natural detail increases with no increase in brightness or edginess.

Ron, do you observe resolution or clarity changing with toe-in? I do not doubt that the presentation at the listening seat changes as speaker orientation changes, but I’m trying to understand how the resolution of the speakers would change with orientation. Are you sure you are not just hearing a different interaction with the room giving you the perception of increase or decrease in clarity? I think of resolution as something different and dependent on other factors in the system.
 
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For straight ahead those speakers could be too wide apart hence why some Toe in is necessary.

Regardless i have found some toe ( very little) in to be advantageous..!

Regards
 
Ron, do you observe resolution or clarity changing with toe-in? I do not doubt that the presentation at the listening seat changes as speaker orientation changes, but I’m trying to understand how the resolution of the speakers would change with orientation. Are you sure you are not just hearing a different interaction with the room giving you the perception of increase or decrease in clarity? I think of resolution as something different and dependent on other factors in the system.

When I write: "with toe-in resolution increases" I am using my definition of resolution, not your definition. But I think you have a good point. I probably should've referred to information and detail rather than to resolution.

With toe-in the midrange/tweeter ribbon driver is aimed more directly at the listener. Perhaps this means the listener hears more information, more detail (rather than an increase in resolution).
 
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Ron, do you observe resolution or clarity changing with toe-in? I do not doubt that the presentation at the listening seat changes as speaker orientation changes, but I’m trying to understand how the resolution of the speakers would change with orientation. Are you sure you are not just hearing a different interaction with the room giving you the perception of increase or decrease in clarity? I think of resolution as something different and dependent on other factors in the system.
Couldn't the reflections from walls impact not only the frequency response, but also impact phase and timing. That all would increase resolution and clarity at the listening chair.
 
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When I write: "with toe-in resolution increases" I am using my definition of resolution, not your definition. But I think you have a good point. I probably should've referred to information and detail rather than to resolution.

With toe-in the midrange/tweeter ribbon driver is aimed more directly at the listener. Perhaps this means the listener hears more information, more detail (rather than an increase in resolution).

I didn’t realize we had different definitions of resolution.
 
I always ultimately wound up with a little toe in on my ribbons. Like said, just a little.
 
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Couldn't the reflections from walls impact not only the frequency response, but also impact phase and timing. That all would increase resolution and clarity at the listening chair.

they may or may not affect your impression or perception of those things. Resolution is more complicated. Are you asking about the inherent resolution of a speaker, or your perception of the resolution of the system? Your perception of how resolving the presentation is is what determines clarity, in my opinion.

A system has an inherent degree of resolution. Whether or not you optimize that depends on other factors like set up and the room. Whether or not you are successful at optimizing the inherent amount of resolution from a system determines the level of clarity.

information is a related concept. Different recordings have different amounts of information. The source component has to extract that information and then the rest of the system should not corrupt it. That then is reflected in the resolution of the system and then the set up and room affect the degree of clarity.

these concepts are related and I haven’t given it a lot of thought, but I think of them as distinct qualities.
 
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I didn’t realize we had different definitions of resolution.

Very much so. Ron Resnick thinks resolution is an objective attribute, presumably existing independently of our experience of it.

I think I see resolution more as an objective attribute than as a subjective attribute like naturalness.

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