I can concur with having tried this ourselves under the Helix One!In fact, Helmut Thiele, who is using a special version of our Reactio for his own turntable "Thiele TT01", is doing exactly the way you suggest: one turntable directly on the rack, a second one on his active (Seismion) platform. For all his auditions at distributors and dealers, the audience was immediately aware of the huge improvement due to the isolation. We have also witnessed it once, and honestly: it exceeded all our expectations!
We also know of some people who tried our isolator under a Dohmann Helix One turntable. As you might know, this turntable uses the passive isolation system from MinusK. After placing our Reactio below, a further improvement was clearly achieved.
Marcus
i can tell you that is a very good match, had my NVS on active for 8 years. zero apparent self noise from the NVS (according to the Herzan read-out) so optimal boost from active. exceptional micro dynamics, focus and bass articulation. lack of smearing dynamic peaks. show conditions and noise levels are not the ideal place to hear everything this combo can do, but i'm sure it will do some fun stuff.Seismion will be accompanying The Audio Association at T.H.E. Show this upcoming weekend in Cosa Mesa in the Bristol 1 room. I believe it will be used under the Wave Kinetics NVS turntable at T.H.E. Show. @TheAudioAssociation @Seismion
I painstakingly (with help from my partner) compared all of my gears on and off Seismion. That comparison (A/B/A) included HRS, and CMS TT footers (and bunch of others). The difference was readily apparent (in favor of Seismion), also confirmed by partner - she has better ears than I do.I answered this on #201
Unfortunately that's not the correct way of evaluating it. The correct way is: component over Seismion and it's on vs component over the rack/platform or on the floor.
I'm happy for them. I hope they didn't just turn Seismion on and off when reaching the above conclusion.
I've had similar sonic benefits using Seismion tables under all of my components, but I have not gone to great lengths for comparison to other footers and passive devices (was using Herzan tables before). I'm curious: what LPS's are you using to power your Seismion's? That's my next step.I painstakingly (with help from my partner) compared all of my gears on and off Seismion. That comparison (A/B/A) included HRS, and CMS TT footers (and bunch of others). The difference was readily apparent (in favor of Seismion), also confirmed by partner - she has better ears than I do.
The dynamics, aliveness, resolution, jump factor, transparency with relaxation, undistorted realism, etc everything increased with Seismion without affecting tonality. passive devices I tried although good on their own way, were colored.
I don’t know if some electronics are tuned to be vibrated like some BBC/thin walled speakers are. But better isolation turn into better sound in my case. I’ve 4 Seismions in my system add the cumulative effect has been more than their sum. I plan to add more Seismion when budget allows. In all honesty, this has been one of the best audio investment I’ve made in recent years.
Btw, my floors are wood over concrete. Rack is from Core Audio Design. I use linear power supply with Cardas DC cables. All the thick cables connecting the gears resting on top of Seismion have vibration dampening cable elevators to reduce strain and minimize vibration transmission.
back when i first acquired my Tana/Herzan platforms, i did exactly this experiment under my darTZeel amplifiers; i asked a couple of local friends to come over and we went through the pain of trying the amps on and off my passive amp stands, and on the active devices. then we compared the active devices on the active shelf turned on and off. the active device turned off was better than the floor or my Box Furniture amp stands. but turned on was better than the others in a very special way.I painstakingly (with help from my partner) compared all of my gears on and off Seismion. That comparison (A/B/A) included HRS, and CMS TT footers (and bunch of others). The difference was readily apparent (in favor of Seismion), also confirmed by partner - she has better ears than I do.
The dynamics, aliveness, resolution, jump factor, transparency with relaxation, undistorted realism, etc everything increased with Seismion without affecting tonality. passive devices I tried although good on their own way, were colored.
I don’t know if some electronics are tuned to be vibrated like some BBC/thin walled speakers are. But better isolation turn into better sound in my case. I’ve 4 Seismions in my system add the cumulative effect has been more than their sum. I plan to add more Seismion when budget allows. In all honesty, this has been one of the best audio investment I’ve made in recent years.
Btw, my floors are wood over concrete. Rack is from Core Audio Design. I use linear power supply with Cardas DC cables. All the thick cables connecting the gears resting on top of Seismion have vibration dampening cable elevators to reduce strain and minimize vibration transmission.
Sure you mean the Reactio plus and not the initial Reactio? Sebastian said, isolation performance of the plus and the 2.0 is the same.twice the isolation capability of the PLUS (543 and 653 models)
The isolation performance is too complex to be described by just one value. In fact, it is at least a frequency dependent parameter, as you can see in below figure.Sure you mean the Reactio plus and not the initial Reactio? Sebastian said, isolation performance of the plus and the 2.0 is the same.
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