Alsyvox vs. Clarisys - What are the Sonic Differences? Anyone Understand Design Differences?

arion said:

As the US importer for Analysis Audio (planar-ribbon) Loudspeakers and the owner/designer of Arion Audio speakers, . . . We still achieve 105 dB sensitivity.

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Audiohertz2 said:

Im still interesting in how the others( Alsyvox & clarysis) are getting 95db

Maybe Florian &Bob will disclose their methodology too ..

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Ron Resnick said:

Clarisys does not report a sensitivity specification of 95dB. The Studio Plus I have at my Audio Café* for audition has a sensitivity specification of 88dB.

*Audio Café is a Clarisys Audio dealer.

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Audiohertz2 said:

Thanks for the response Ron , is that anechoic /FS , 88db/M @ 2.83 volts ..?

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rad said:

Seems like quite a few dealers are plugging the Alsyvox speakers, which is totally fine. If I sold them I most likely would do the same.
I for one am happy that there are great choices in the Plainer / Dipole categories. It's also good that some clarifications are made on materials & build quality. We do make mistakes sometimes on our reporting of materials and build quality. Also things change as far as upgrades.

I would like to reiterate some of my findings & opinions. I surely don't mean to start a shit show...( some of you already have). We all have our opinions & references. That is ok, but if you have not physically seen the build quality ( hands on ) of each, your opinion means nothing. Please keep in mind I have heard both brands in intimate settings / rooms with very good amps, pre & source. I Have heard them both at shows as well, which means nothing in bad rooms. It's also a mute point to make an opinion on Videos, Why? crazy! I IMHO!

I feel both speakers are built extremely well, I love the look of the Alsyvox with the wood accents. I also like the look of the Clarisys with it's aluminum accents & different colors. The weight of the Clarisys is a plus. They are both beautiful!
Beauty is not the only reason to purchase. Buyers reference for sure.

My main concerns on the differences stem from the sound across the frequency spectrum & room interaction. Both speakers are extremely true to the source, good recordings are a pure pleasure to behold. Bad recordings, well you know!. Both are very open, transparent, fast, great sound staging, decay, timber of instruments. They both have a nice widow into the music. They draw you in. No harshness in the upper frequencies, nice & extended. No comparison to some of the crap tweeters on the market. I guess you can say I like ribbons!
My main concern was the Bass! The Clarisys are far superior in the lower region. Full, more Weight, Definition. Even the mid bass is a cut above. To me they just dig deeper as well. IMHO!
Maybe in a different setting it could be different. But my search did not bring a positive result in this category. I respect others findings, but for me I feel I made a great choice. You need to hear these in a good setup to form a educated, personal decision.
BTW, Another plus for the Clarisys is being able to go with an active crossover...WOW! Game Changer!

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PhP said:

Quality of craftsmanship between the 2 brands is miles away, the Spanish one the very best.

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Ron Resnick said:

Hello arion,

I auditioned Analysis Audio loudspeakers outside of London, and I liked them a lot!

I just noticed your 105dB specification? How are you achieving that in a planar magnetic-type loudspeaker?

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ricjor1 said:

Analysis Audio speakers were my favorite speakers at the Southwest Audio Fest.

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Audiohertz2 said:

Any videos or pics of the room ..?

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arion said:

As the US importer for Analysis Audio (planar-ribbon) Loudspeakers and the owner/designer of Arion Audio speakers, it's nice to read about all the passion over light membrane dipole speakers.

Having been involved in planar-ribbon design/development and designing and manufacturing our own AMT drivers I think I have a fairly decent understanding of how these transducers work. I can assure you that almost always the implementation matters more. To say all Mylar or all Kapton is better or using the same substrate is better is meaningless. There are specific reasons why an engineer or designer will choose one over the other or a combination of both. For example, Analysis uses Kapton for the M/T ribbon and Mylar for the large diaphragm. There are very specific reasons for these choices. The Arion AMT drivers use Mylar because the properties are more suitable for the application.

Interesting that one brand chose N52 Neodymium magnets. They are at the stronger end of the spectrum but are much less stable against oxidation, heat and impact. We use N45 Neodymium magnets which are only slightly less powerful but more stable across the board. We still achieve 105 dB sensitivity.

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Rhapsody said:

Since the thread has shifted over to Analysis Audio speakers I have a question. Please explain the 105 db sensitivity of the Analysis Audio speakers. The AA speakers look very interesting. I was looking at the AA site and it shows a different sensitivity rating than the mentioned 105db.

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MODEL	RATING	In room SENSITIVITY*	DIMENSIONS (H,W,D)	WEIGHT each
Amphitryon	600 W	86 dB	215 cm, 71 cm, 7 cm (7 ft , 2 ft 4 in, 2.8 in)	66 kgr (145 lb)
Omega	400 W	86 dB	168 cm, 61 cm, 6 cm (5 ft 6 in, 2 ft, 2.4 in)	45 kgr (99 lb)
Epsilon	300 W	86 dB	132 cm, 61 cm, 6 cm (4 ft 4 in, 2 ft, 2.4 in)	36 kgr (79 lb)
Omicron	250 W	86 dB	112 cm, 61 cm, 6 cm (3 ft 8 in, 2 ft, 2.4 in)	31 kgr (68 lb)

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Rhapsody said:

Since the thread has shifted over to Analysis Audio speakers I have a question. Please explain the 105 db sensitivity of the Analysis Audio speakers. The AA speakers look very interesting. I was looking at the AA site and it shows a different sensitivity rating than the mentioned 105db.

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Full PLANAR RIBBON Loudspeakers​

MODEL	RATING	In room SENSITIVITY*	DIMENSIONS (H,W,D)	WEIGHT each
Amphitryon	600 W	86 dB	215 cm, 71 cm, 7 cm (7 ft , 2 ft 4 in, 2.8 in)	66 kgr (145 lb)
Omega	400 W	86 dB	168 cm, 61 cm, 6 cm (5 ft 6 in, 2 ft, 2.4 in)	45 kgr (99 lb)
Epsilon	300 W	86 dB	132 cm, 61 cm, 6 cm (4 ft 4 in, 2 ft, 2.4 in)	36 kgr (79 lb)
Omicron	250 W	86 dB	112 cm, 61 cm, 6 cm (3 ft 8 in, 2 ft, 2.4 in)	31 kgr (68 lb)

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Rob181 said:

The 105db was referencing the Arion speakers & this is obvious to most who read the post. Please explain why you would post such an unprofessional response.

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Rhapsody said:

Since the thread has shifted over to Analysis Audio speakers I have a question. Please explain the 105 db sensitivity of the Analysis Audio speakers. The AA speakers look very interesting. I was looking at the AA site and it shows a different sensitivity rating than the mentioned 105db.

Synopsis​

Full PLANAR RIBBON Loudspeakers​

MODEL	RATING	In room SENSITIVITY*	DIMENSIONS (H,W,D)	WEIGHT each
Amphitryon	600 W	86 dB	215 cm, 71 cm, 7 cm (7 ft , 2 ft 4 in, 2.8 in)	66 kgr (145 lb)
Omega	400 W	86 dB	168 cm, 61 cm, 6 cm (5 ft 6 in, 2 ft, 2.4 in)	45 kgr (99 lb)
Epsilon	300 W	86 dB	132 cm, 61 cm, 6 cm (4 ft 4 in, 2 ft, 2.4 in)	36 kgr (79 lb)
Omicron	250 W	86 dB	112 cm, 61 cm, 6 cm (3 ft 8 in, 2 ft, 2.4 in)	31 kgr (68 lb)

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Audiohertz2 said:

So all Models of AA has the same sensitivity , interesting ..!

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