Looking for anyone that has successfully integrated the CR1 crossover and is loving the sound and music with it
I see you use the Wilson Crossover...do you prefer that over the CR1? If I were to consider dual subs, and experimenting with NOT running the XLFs full range (possibly cutting them off somewhere between 32-38hz, would you think the Wilson Crossover would be the best crossover option...and more importantly, do you think objectively (not just relative to CR1) it would do a good job...or would you advise as above...and not run high frequencies through it?I have used the CR-1 several times. In my own system as well as others.
What are you wanting to do? Are you wanting to use it as a low pass for the subwoofers only or are you trying to roll of the main speakers at 80Hz etc? If you have a highly resolving loudspeaker I don't recommend running your high frequencies through it.
Thank you very much! Let me see if I can get a sweep. I think the one I have was from our other room. In this room, we are roughly flat to 25hz and then -5db at 20hz. This is according to the Wilson dealer who installed the XLFs and was kind enough to set up the Velodyne DD18+ for me (running completely in parallel, not cutoff at all of XLFs).I forgot to answer the question on high passing the mains. I have not tried that withe ActivXo so I can't really comment on it. I would be very skeptical about doing it. Once a system reaches a certain level of transparency there is just no it is not going to damage the sound.
If I was going to high pass the mains then I am thinking I might as well look at a product like the Bacch SSP dio or adio. I could then HP the mains and carefully use some of the other features. But I don't know about that either. It would definitely be a trade off. Some good stuff but another noisy digital box to contend with.
Do you have an REW frequency sweep from 20-100Hz that you could share? You could PM if you don't want to post it.
Hello Lloyd,
Comparing the CR-1 to the ActivXo. IMO, the CR-1 is noisy. This was easy to hear with guitar or plucked strings etc. I would not advise running your highs through it. The ActivXo has a lower noise floor so if you are wanting to high pass the mains I would say to go with it. Honestly, there are not a lot of good solutions on the market for this type of thing.
Fundamentally there are some technical differences between the two.
1. The ActivXo has gain control. It has a knob that can increase/decresae the volume of the left an right independently. There is also a global gain knob. The CR-1 has no method of changing the volume of the subs. It is assuming you are using active subs an can control volume with them.
2. The CR-1 has a choice of 12 and 24 dB/Oct slopes. The ActivXo has a choice of 12 and 18 dB/Oct slopes.
3. The ActivXo has continuously variable phase. The CR-1 does not.
3. The CR-1 has a couple knobs that can adjust the gain right at the crossover point. So it is possible to smooth the frequency response at the crossover point with the CR-1. I believe this is the CR-1's solution to continuously variable phase.
4. They both have a lower cutoff of 30Hz for the LPF. They both can be set to either stereo or mono subs. They both take single ended and balanced inputs/outputs. They both have variable crossover points.
I've never found the CR-1 to be anything but very transparent and very quiet.
That is what i have been told too, considered it a while ago.I have used the CR-1 several times. In my own system as well as others.
What are you wanting to do? Are you wanting to use it as a low pass for the subwoofers only or are you trying to roll of the main speakers at 80Hz etc? If you have a highly resolving loudspeaker I don't recommend running your high frequencies through it.
How was the Pass, it looks like a great crossover ?As have I... The only other hw x-overs I have used are the Wilson and Pass.... The CR-1 is perfect for my JL "system".
How was the Pass, it looks like a great crossover ?
As have I... The only other hw x-overs I have used are the Wilson and Pass.... The CR-1 is perfect for my JL "system".
What do you mean by “resolving”. I’m curious what characteristics of a speaker you think should not be controlled by the crossoverThat is what i have been told too, considered it a while ago.
If a crossover adds some noise or takes away some of the information i have fought so hard to obtain trough a all analog chain, it is not for me. My sub-towers are passive, a crossover without ample phase adjustments is just not good enough for my system. When i integrated sub-towers with my MBL 101 E speakers i ended up not connecting the built in sub-driver, running mains with passive filter only and sub-towers with active crossover at 100 Hz, 24db slope. It was just more transparent/resolving.What do you mean by “resolving”. I’m curious what characteristics of a speaker you think should not be controlled by the crossover
Very limited adaptability, only 12db slope, and no phase adjustment, lowest cut frequency 63 HZ. Maybe good instead of a passive crossover on a full range speaker, not good for setting up more complex speaker system.this one is pretty good, i've read. and it's going to be very transparent. but cost you too.
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