anyone using the Esoteric Grandioso GIX Master Sound Discrete clock?
a game changer? certainly spendy.
a game changer? certainly spendy.
Any Esoteric fans here?
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Mmm... if the top tier stuff has cheap trannies and crapo IEC power inlets and the changes done with MU materials and Furutech connectors then I'm not sure whether the K1 Grandioso series is worth its pretty penny! Not sure what the cost is in the US but down unda (Aus) these things are top level luxury items, definitely not the hard-working save and buy thing, no chance!
At this level, we're looking at close to 70grand for K1 series. It's really discouraging to learn that this type of mediocre stuff / parts are found in the K1 series digital playback systems.
I'm using the humble K-07xs series and it has a wonderful EI core tranny of top quality. It's not even top tier gear, rather entry level but no issues with trannies as far as I'm aware. I've dared to even open it up, I don't see the point in that, especially under warranty... but I did mange to get a chance to check one out whiles demoing at the dealership. It's high quality parts right throughout and it's the only two type of players that use EI core trannies (K07xs & K03xs). All the others above this level use toroidal trannies.
I was seriously considering the new XD series, either the K03XD or K01XD but if those are using mediocre trannies, no thanks!
Any idea what type of trannies the latest XD series uses? I'll be damned if it's anything less compared to my entry level K07xs! Ha, that would be the play of day.
This is very interesting at the same time off-putting... might have to consider something else. The last thing I would want to do is spend 69grand on a digital player and then have to modify it simply because... nah, not worth it.
All the best, RJ
At this level, we're looking at close to 70grand for K1 series. It's really discouraging to learn that this type of mediocre stuff / parts are found in the K1 series digital playback systems.
I'm using the humble K-07xs series and it has a wonderful EI core tranny of top quality. It's not even top tier gear, rather entry level but no issues with trannies as far as I'm aware. I've dared to even open it up, I don't see the point in that, especially under warranty... but I did mange to get a chance to check one out whiles demoing at the dealership. It's high quality parts right throughout and it's the only two type of players that use EI core trannies (K07xs & K03xs). All the others above this level use toroidal trannies.
I was seriously considering the new XD series, either the K03XD or K01XD but if those are using mediocre trannies, no thanks!
Any idea what type of trannies the latest XD series uses? I'll be damned if it's anything less compared to my entry level K07xs! Ha, that would be the play of day.
This is very interesting at the same time off-putting... might have to consider something else. The last thing I would want to do is spend 69grand on a digital player and then have to modify it simply because... nah, not worth it.
All the best, RJ
Fremer is enjoying their new turntable design, so named the Grandioso T1...utilizing the MagneDrive System, which is supposed to have much of the advantages of an idler drive without any inherent drawbacks. One can only wait and hear.
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I listened to it at Seoul Audio show yesterday.Fremer is enjoying their new turntable design, so named the Grandioso T1...utilizing the MagneDrive System, which is supposed to have much of the advantages of an idler drive without any inherent drawbacks. One can only wait and hear.
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It sounds fantastic.
Nice, and that was with Goebel Speakers, right? I was curious how a full Esoteric system would sound into speakers that were so uncolored. Evidently, very very good. (I had heard the Goebel Speakers with CH gear several times and found the combination a bit bleached...to each his own. I should add that I believe either components or speakers can be used in a system to a pleasing end...I just thought their synergy at that time was slightly lacking.
Seoul Audio Show
https://www.hificlub.co.kr/web2022/board/view.asp?table=brd_10281&pid=18169&brdcat=710 It is going to be held from March 3rd to 5th, 2023 at Kangnam, Seoul. The above video is from the one last year. It had been 20 years since I had been to that show at Seoul. But I plan to visit Seoul...
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Goebel driven by Esoteric turntable and amps sounded attractive while big Goebel driven by all Ch Precision sounded rather mediocre.
One gentleman made magnetic planar units from the scratch and also got the patent right of it.
His proto type speaker give lot of potential with clean an fast sound.
Oh my! Very very nice. Now that's something worthwhile looking into. No units of those over here, I'm thinking it should be well over the price of the fine Spec TT, which is also made in Japan and is string driven. Same company that makes the Spec Aluminum disc mat. Had to give it away for next to nothing due to unresolved static issues but their TT was a fine piece of Art!Fremer is enjoying their new turntable design, so named the Grandioso T1...utilizing the MagneDrive System, which is supposed to have much of the advantages of an idler drive without any inherent drawbacks. One can only wait and hear.
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The Eso TT looks truly amazing, solid build like the mothership of TT's from the intergalactic!
I would probably require a Uni course to learn how to set that thing up and it still wouldn't be right.
Guess they would also include a set-up crew at the owner's home... that would be nice.
Cheers to whoever has this, hats off! Well done and do enjoy those very fine tunes!
Woof! RJ
mine arrives in a week to 10 days, the clock a couple weeks later.
Are you practicing flying under the radar comments now?
Sure.
Wondered how long it might take for you to see it?
The over/under was 30 minutes. Clearly you are slow this morning.
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@Mike Lavigne haha you dropped enough hints last few days
When you're ready we all will be curious to know if you go with a tonearm you already know ( Tosca or Primary Control ) etc. Fun stuff!
When you're ready we all will be curious to know if you go with a tonearm you already know ( Tosca or Primary Control ) etc. Fun stuff!
yes, took myself off my self imposed Esoteric posting embargo a few days back.....once my Saskia was sold.@Mike Lavigne haha you dropped enough hints last few days
When you're ready we all will be curious to know if you go with a tonearm you already know ( Tosca or Primary Control ) etc. Fun stuff!
as far as tonearms, i'm buying the T1 version with the Ikeda TA-9D arm, then adding arm boards for the Tosca/Dava and Primary Control FCL/Etsuro Gold. i'll add my wood arm wand Telos back on the NVS, and the 2nd Tosca will stay on the NVS. so with the CS Port linear tracker that will be 6 tone arms.
i have 2 new cartridges coming, and still have my unmounted 1.0mil Miyajima Infinity mono too.
btw; the arm boards other than what is listed as 'factory' must be built, not just drilled, and are very spendy. and involve a multiple month process. which i am part way thru. and only the front left position can handle longer arms (my 12" FCL). the back left (Tosca) and back right (Ikeda TA-9D) can only handle shorter arms.
stock choices......
Grandioso T1
Analog Turntable with TA-9D Dynamic Balance Tonearm
(as shown above)
Grandioso T1/AL
Analog Turntable without Tonearm
AB-T1SM1
Optional Tonearm Base Kit (for SME and Graham Phantom)
AB-T1KD1
Optional Tonearm Base Kit (for IKEDA)
AB-T1SC1
Optional Tonearm Base Kit (for SAEC)
stock choices......
Grandioso T1
Analog Turntable with TA-9D Dynamic Balance Tonearm
(as shown above)
Grandioso T1/AL
Analog Turntable without Tonearm
AB-T1SM1
Optional Tonearm Base Kit (for SME and Graham Phantom)
AB-T1KD1
Optional Tonearm Base Kit (for IKEDA)
AB-T1SC1
Optional Tonearm Base Kit (for SAEC)
soon will share.Dava, Etsuro Gold(s) and both Miyajima mono 1.0 and 0.7 stylus sizes. Hmm whats next ...
it's a small footprint turntable, but somewhat involved. 3 good sized boxes, on 3 pallets. Esoteric certainly seems like they are a very detail oriented company and execute things at very high levels.
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