Battery Power

[Kingrex]

You could build it all into a class D amp chassis. Ralphs amps are small. You just need a big box.

Heck, ASR Amir says all filters are expectation bias and we don't need them. The power supply in our equipment is actually acting as a filter for noise. So there is that too.

 

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Imagine telling your customers its up to them to buy a big a$$ battery to power their amp. Where do they put them. DC cables should be measured in inches. Not feet. And each battery is $2000. And at 12 volts, you need 4 for any play time.

With respect, that is nonsense. The Red Wine Signature amp I owned used a small battery within its standard amp-size enclosure and this provided power for several hours of listening. At the end of a session, or if the battery became discharged, the internal power supply could be switched on to recharge the battery or directly supply the amp in the same way most other amp power supplies do.

Batteries cost is nothing like $2000 - why should they? A first-class 12V battery of the Ah capacity needed for a preamp, DAC, streamer, or Class D amp for a few hours' use would be small enough to tuck behind the amp or even within its case if designed to take such a battery.

Have you read what I'm posting? Wire them wrong and they will charge incorrectly. Might even catch one on fire if you do something stupid.

Yes, and that's precisely why I'm trying to help you. There is no need for fires, explosions or whatever if you have a battery in your audio gear, any more than there is to have a battery in your car. I'm agreeing with you that batteries are in theory a great way of powering your gear, but not if you convert their DC to AC and then back to DC. That would cost a lot and would add nothing comparted with the AC to DC conversion done by a conventional amp with a high quality internal (or even external) power supply. Use your DC to deliver DC straight to the circuit, but only if the amp lends itself to such a conversion.

 

[Kingrex]

With respect, that is nonsense. The Red Wine Signature amp I owned used a small battery within its standard amp-size enclosure and this provided power for several hours of listening. At the end of a session, or if the battery became discharged, the internal power supply could be switched on to recharge the battery or directly supply the amp in the same way most other amp power supplies do.

Batteries cost is nothing like $2000 - why should they? A first-class 12V battery of the Ah capacity needed for a preamp, DAC, streamer, or Class D amp for a few hours' use would be small enough to tuck behind the amp or even within its case if designed to take such a battery.


Yes, and that's precisely why I'm trying to help you. There is no need for fires, explosions or whatever if you have a battery in your audio gear, any more than there is to have a battery in your car. I'm agreeing with you that batteries are in theory a great way of powering your gear, but not if you convert their DC to AC and then back to DC. That would cost a lot and would add nothing comparted with the AC to DC conversion done by a conventional amp with a high quality internal (or even external) power supply. Use your DC to deliver DC straight to the circuit, but only if the amp lends itself to such a conversion.

With respect, your not trying to help anyone. Your all fluffed up on your personal ego, using the thread I started to postulate some dream amp that you will never build. I will build a battery/inverter power supply and others may follow suit if it performs well, as it can be done. And it can be done safely. There are millions of battery powered backup systems in people homes around the world.
No one is going to disect their equipment and bypass the internal power supply to feed it with a battery. Thats a stupid idea. Even Vinnie and Jeff abandoned the idea. Or it didn't catch on.

Please start your own thread about internal battery powered audio equipment if you like. See if it catches peoples attention. I doubt it will. It would be nice if you dropped your pipe dream from this thread. Your flogging a dead horse.

 

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Please start your own thread about internal battery powered audio equipment if you like. See if it catches peoples attention. I doubt it will.

I'm sure it wouldn't catch on any more than your plan to deliver power via a costly charger / battery / inverter method. I have no intention of powering my gear by batteries. If it was viable or advantageous and had merit, I suspect it would have been widely adopted by now.

I'll leave you to explore the idea further and wish you well.

 

[MarkusBarkus]

...with recent battery chemistry and management tech strategies, IMO some of the hurdles have been removed/overcome re: SQ to run components by integrated battery. Or perhaps external boxes mated to the specific components.

That said, I think the compliance and weight aspects remain unattractive for most manufacturers. It's a lot to learn and it's a new paradigm. And not many audio people are clamoring for it, IMO. Eventually, I think we'll see more of it. I'm listening to the one-day-old Taiko Olympus on battery and it's fab.

Would need something akin to Rex's proposition for the rest of the gear. FWIW, I tried the Stromtank here 2-3 years? ago when it came out, and it was not better than the wall and TT7 here. A parallel move for 35K, so didn't make sense to me.