The real question is why I should even share what I have.
Because this sounds like a troll post to me.
Best audiophile switch
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Because this sounds like a troll post to me.
Because it not TCP/IP so it is not forced to communicate with a router or VLAN controller for the destination. So its timing is not effected by network hardware.
It may or may not be noise, but the inability to deliver the bandwidth, that gives the appearance of noise. If you don't have an analyzer to see the noise, then it could be either and a managed switch or gateway server (instead of the store bought router) would fix it. Because a switch doesn't fix noise issue on the cable.
I currently have a Cisco Meraki Go GS110-8 switch in my setup - no audiophile switch.
IEEE802.3 (the Ethernet spec) has very specific requirements for isolation as well as resistance to current and voltage spikes. This is all to maintain performance in variable EMI and RFI scenarios as well as for electrical safety. In order for something to be called Ethernet it has to follow these specs.
where do a audiophile switch add value then?
Torben
IEEE802.3 (the Ethernet spec) has very specific requirements for isolation as well as resistance to current and voltage spikes. This is all to maintain performance in variable EMI and RFI scenarios as well as for electrical safety. In order for something to be called Ethernet it has to follow these specs.
where do a audiophile switch add value then?
Torben
Does anyone understand the need for all of these digital components?
Does anyone understand the need for all of these digital components, that a reviewer is using? What are they all for? Are all needed? And how do they benefit the streaming setup? 1. dcs DAC and Innuos Statement Next-Gen Music Server - obvious 2. Small Green Computer Sonore Deluxe...
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Does anyone understand the need for all of these digital components?
Does anyone understand the need for all of these digital components, that a reviewer is using? What are they all for? Are all needed? And how do they benefit the streaming setup? 1. dcs DAC and Innuos Statement Next-Gen Music Server - obvious 2. Small Green Computer Sonore Deluxe...
THX, but did not provide any answer to my question
A little off topic perhaps, but this is what I use, and it offers an interesting alternative to chasing down noise upstream from the DAC:
Audio interfaces and sound quality – ECdesigns
ecdesigns.nl
From experience, having played with network switches (and heard a number of demos), there can be benefits but results are not consistent, which is easily explained by the fact that noise has multiple causes and ways of infiltrating a DAC. All our systems are unique when it comes to noise...
In that sense, there may not be a "best switch" that will have the same results for everyone (which is back on topic).
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Because we've learned over the years the people who come into these forums with the loudest "know it all" voices and condescending attitudes with their attempts to "set us all straight" are the ones who are usually the most deaf with the most low end system.
They are they people who say they tried XXX gear "and XXX doesn't matter", and then when we finally see what they own Cerwin Vega's pushed up against the walls in a corner with a 1984 Onkyo Cassette Deck and a 1987 Sony receiver as their main system. They are also the people who think products they don't agree with should be banned because after all, they are the know-it-all and want to be our masters because they are smarter than us.
To be honest, if you're going to come onto a forum with the intent to show off how much smarter than us you are and lecturing people about how you are right and they are wrong, what you own as a system is VERY relevant.
People have shown you respect and tried to have real conversations with you and you have no interest in that. Time for me to hit the BLOCK button and remove your incessant whining. If you don't give the mosquito the blood to suck, it will eventually wither away to nothing.
WBF: I'm sorry for the tone of the post. You know I usually ignore the forum trolls, but I haven't had my iced coffee yet this morning so all bets are off as Sparkle clearly has come on with an agenda to fulfill his lonely ego by getting as much negative attention as he can on this forum.
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Sometimes a poor or overloaded router will not give the network a high enough sustained transfer rate for the packets and therefore can not deliver it in time and the receiving end drops the packet. This sound is more like cd skipping but sometimes its fuzzy static sounds.
Cabling sometimes can be an issue if runs are too long for the category used or if there is kinks in the wire or twisted and bunched up. Here is a wire chart explaining runs, speeds, and acceptable lengths for them:
So sometimes a switch is not the problem and a nice running network starts with the router.
Now these days, someone could either build up a router from a PC, or buy embedded servers that will serve the task. Also, you can configure them as high performance switches. The router's OS I like to use these days is PFsense which is the same Linux programs I used when these router OS did not exist.
This is my next router to replace my aging router that I built from a PC, a Supermicro SYS-E302-12D-8C. Which I have been thinking off and on to use also as a music server:
Your reply perfectly illustrates my pointSometimes a poor or overloaded router will not give the network a high enough sustained transfer rate for the packets and therefore can not deliver it in time and the receiving end drops the packet. This sound is more like cd skipping but sometimes its fuzzy static sounds.
Cabling sometimes can be an issue if runs are too long for the category used or if there is kinks in the wire or twisted and bunched up. Here is a wire chart explaining runs, speeds, and acceptable lengths for them:
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So sometimes a switch is not the problem and a nice running network starts with the router.
Now these days, someone could either build up a router from a PC, or buy embedded servers that will serve the task. Also, you can configure them as high performance switches. The router's OS I like to use these days is PFsense which is the same Linux programs I used when these router OS did not exist.
This is my next router to replace my aging router that I built from a PC, a Supermicro SYS-E302-12D-8C. Which I have been thinking off and on to use also as a music server:
I didn't see post 410 until I posted my reply.Your reply perfectly illustrates my point
I don't apologize for my intelligence being intimidating. It happens. I'm a woman.
Beacause you are a real *Veteran* of this forum that you consider you may speak for the rest of us ? … Oh … It would appear Not !
It's not possible to be intimidating when you're talking about the wrong thing where there's no interest
Try it with a linear power supply if you can. The supplied wall wart does not do it justice at all.
PS The Bonn N8 is not competitive with the EtherRegen, and both are a similar price point.
LOL. The collective "we" is for the normal people on ANY hifi forum who have learned to spot the emotionally needy trolls a mile a way.
Thanks for sharing about your streaming device and your musical tastes: could you also share what your DAC, amplifier(s?) and speakers are? I’m just trying to get a feel for what your Dante network and DIY streamer feed into to turn data into music. Thanks!
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