If line source is your thing, there exists multiple non-panel options.https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...77A8948C2CA56E5A454F77A8948C2CA56E5&FORM=VIRE
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Cancelled my Magnepan 30.7 order - sad experience - over 1 year wait and promises broken
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This also is very good. Full range Ribbon with useable bass down to mid 20’s......
ANALYSIS AMPHITRYON....
ANALYSIS AMPHITRYON....
Thanks. I'll check it out.
Re: my current tastes, In Munich last year at the HiFi Deluxe show, I really liked SoulSonic - a really really long ribbon tweeter. Also liked the Alsyvox planar magnetic very much.
Dr Vinyl is the North American dealer for Alsyvox and we are speaking tomorrow AM.
I sort of hoped the 30.7 would approximate the Alsyvox for a fraction of the price originally. I know the 30.7 and Alsyvox are different types of loudspeakers and the Alsyvox is more like Apogee's. But the Alsyvox reminded me of magnepans I've heard before and it was wonderful. I'll check your suggestion.
I've owned lots of different speakers over the years, like Avantgarde Trios, Acapellas and the like. I like speed and sensitivity. I also like to move a lot of air and rock out so I have some systems which are better tuned for that.
My main listening space is an open concept 80 feet long and where I listen about 40 feet deep. My speakers are usually 6 to 8 feet from rear wall. 10 foot ceilings.
I usually digitally and/or electrically cross over bass and use the servo open baffle subs to couple well for fast room bass.
Re: my current tastes, In Munich last year at the HiFi Deluxe show, I really liked SoulSonic - a really really long ribbon tweeter. Also liked the Alsyvox planar magnetic very much.
Dr Vinyl is the North American dealer for Alsyvox and we are speaking tomorrow AM.
I sort of hoped the 30.7 would approximate the Alsyvox for a fraction of the price originally. I know the 30.7 and Alsyvox are different types of loudspeakers and the Alsyvox is more like Apogee's. But the Alsyvox reminded me of magnepans I've heard before and it was wonderful. I'll check your suggestion.
I've owned lots of different speakers over the years, like Avantgarde Trios, Acapellas and the like. I like speed and sensitivity. I also like to move a lot of air and rock out so I have some systems which are better tuned for that.
My main listening space is an open concept 80 feet long and where I listen about 40 feet deep. My speakers are usually 6 to 8 feet from rear wall. 10 foot ceilings.
I usually digitally and/or electrically cross over bass and use the servo open baffle subs to couple well for fast room bass.
You may also consider auditioning Arion Apollo line source speakers.
https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/what-is-your-opinion-of-line-source-speakers.27008/
Mike of Arion is distributor and co developer of Analysis speakers.
https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/what-is-your-opinion-of-line-source-speakers.27008/
Mike of Arion is distributor and co developer of Analysis speakers.
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The Alsyvox looks like the real deal too!
And what about reconditioned Apogees by Rich of True Sound Works?
And what about reconditioned Apogees by Rich of True Sound Works?
Personally, if I lived in Europe I would buy Analysis Audio over Magnepan, and if I lived in the United States I would buy Magnepan over Analysis Audio. Why make things complicated by buying products from different continents if you don’t really have to?
@Doktorfuture, the GTA3r panels are crossover less (with just one high grade cap in the tweeter), a lot more efficient than the Amphitryons & costs about the same with Sound Insight SI-200 open baffle servo subs, making them a better value than the AA panels imho - and they’re made right here is the USA.
Never heard the 30s but the other Maggie's have such a plastic tone compared to AA and apogees. And no bass compared to the latter. Only at the level of 1.7i and possibly 3.7i used they are very good value for money, that's about it. Maybe if someone can mod the crossovers of Maggie's the way they do for the other two, it might work
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Yes in all their models there is an artificiality to tone. I have heard the 1. 7i and 3. 7i and older models with different amps and properly set up and the 20.7 only at hifi shows, but that trait was common to all. The only time I did not hear it was a a show and I asked the distributor displaying it, he said had Modded the cross overs
Anyway value aside I prefer AA to all their models and all apogees properly amped have better bass, the mids depend on the restore...
Interesting, Kedar. Fair enough. I am not hearing what you are hearing.
I don’t hear any plastic tone on 20.7s, and neither does Tao and neither does Don Saltzman.
I agree Apogees have stronger bass.
I don’t hear any plastic tone on 20.7s, and neither does Tao and neither does Don Saltzman.
I agree Apogees have stronger bass.
The other reason I gave up on panels is I found vintage tannoy drivers to provide same quality of mids magic, that full bodied ribbon feel with great integration to bass like apogees do. They rock better than apogees do (FR and grands excluded) They also stage big, and you feel that continuity of the instrument through a large driver. They are much cheaper, easier to set up, room friendlier, and work with lower powered cheaper amps.
I love Apogee bass as well. I do have modded crossovers in my 20.7s but they never once have sounded at all plastic... but they do fairly much sound just like whatever amp is driving them.
Properly setup 20.7s are a fairly sensational thing. I’ve heard quite a few setups now and they reveal the rest of the system completely. If a SET would drive them they’d be even more wonderful. Hence I have horns (and harbys as well for some of the reasons Ked mentions above).
The fact the SET doesn’t drive the Maggies makes them a bit more vulnerable come the time to choose what stays.
Properly setup 20.7s are a fairly sensational thing. I’ve heard quite a few setups now and they reveal the rest of the system completely. If a SET would drive them they’d be even more wonderful. Hence I have horns (and harbys as well for some of the reasons Ked mentions above).
The fact the SET doesn’t drive the Maggies makes them a bit more vulnerable come the time to choose what stays.
Sets can't drive ribbons except in Brad land
You don’t hear the slightest, tiniest transparency/resolution/texture issue with vocals on Tannoy horn drivers?
Do you hear vintage Tannoy drivers as having 1) the same openness as panels, and 2) the same scale/height as panels?
I am all in favor of component upgrades and modifications! Magnepan, in my view unfortunately, builds to a price point.
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