Dartzeel vs. Ayre

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Lotsa good amps on that list. I've been intrigued by what I've heard out of the Luxman amps on the Vivid speakers. What did you think about them on the YGs?
The Luxman's were the least impressive amps I've had. They really had no dynamics with YG. I noticed Stereophile took the m-800a off the recommended list this month. I agree with that. It's a poor performer into low impedance. I am not saying the Luxamns aren't good on other speakers. With the vivid, they are great; just not the YG.
 

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It's not a question of liking or not liking the Anat III. I believe the Anat III is the best speaker I've ever heard and gives me the greatest resolution imaginable. I am simply looking to extend the performance of the Anat III by finding the best amplifier match. I am currently using the BMC M1 monoblocks. The BMC is, far and away, the best amp I've heard on these speakers so far. I have had the following amps in my room with the Anat III:

Luxman M-600a; mono and stereo
Luxman M-800a
Rogue Medusa
ASR Emitter II, blue, gold boards
Dartzeel CTH-8550
Ayre MX-R
Rowland 625
BMC M1 monoblocks

I've got a pretty good idea what type of amp works best with my speakers. That's why I am interested in hearing the Krell 600e. I know some folks don't like Krell on their speakers. That's fine. I am just interested in making my system sound the best I can. I am sure the Soulution 710 would be a nice match, but I doubt it would be any more dynamic than the BMCs.

Dallas,

i said nothing and intended nothing negative toward the Anat III, and sorry if what i asked somehow inferred that. it was not my intent.

that is an impressive list of amps you have there.

good luck on finding the perfect amp for you and the Anat III.
 

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The Luxman's were the least impressive amps I've had. They really had no dynamics with YG. I noticed Stereophile took the m-800a off the recommended list this month. I agree with that. It's a poor performer into low impedance. I am not saying the Luxamns aren't good on other speakers. With the vivid, they are great; just not the YG.

Interesting, doesn't sound like they'd work with the low load of an estat then either.
 

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It appears these speakers require super high current SS amplfiers to drive them properly. I read the review of the Anat REF II Pro speakers in SP and that is what JA stated based on their phase angle and capacitive angle combination and I assume your speakers have similiar amp requirements based on how many of them you have run through and not been happy with. Your BMC M1 amps aren't rated into impedances less than 4 ohms which would indicate a less than stellar match for your speakers. You need a real bar-brawler for your speakers.
 

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It appears these speakers require super high current SS amplfiers to drive them properly. I read the review of the Anat REF II Pro speakers in SP and that is what JA stated based on their phase angle and capacitive angle combination and I assume your speakers have similiar amp requirements based on how many of them you have run through and not been happy with. Your BMC M1 amps aren't rated into impedances less than 4 ohms which would indicate a less than stellar match for your speakers. You need a real bar-brawler for your speakers.

Mark

I bet your Krell KSA-300 would drive the Anat lll without effort and with great bass
 

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What amp is Yoav Geva using to run his Anat lll at shows

I remember Krell, Soulution, and Tenor. Best sound IMHO was with the Tenor amplifiers, with the Soulution a close second.
 

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I bet your Krell KSA-300 would drive the Anat lll without effort and with great bass

Steve-Mine is the KSA-250, but I have no doubt it would drive them with no problem. Some amps are like bantam roosters-they can puff their chests out and kick a little ass. The KSA-250 is a real bar-brawler and will clean house. Just as important, these were designed with the Krell 'old school' sound meaning they are warm and well balanced and not on the lighter side of bright as some people have complained about their later gear.
Given their current market price and even factoring in having it sent back to Krell for a recap and going over, it has to be considered a tremendous bargain in terms of the sound quality and power they bring to the table.
 

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I remember Krell, Soulution, and Tenor. Best sound IMHO was with the Tenor amplifiers, with the Soulution a close second.

Should we assume that the Burmester supporters are now sleeping? :)
 

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I remember Krell, Soulution, and Tenor. Best sound IMHO was with the Tenor amplifiers, with the Soulution a close second.

Aren't the Tenor amps tube?
 

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I remember Krell, Soulution, and Tenor. Best sound IMHO was with the Tenor amplifiers, with the Soulution a close second.

I have always heard good things about the sound of Tenor amps...i just recall a big questionmark over reliability of their older products, and then the company restructured and older warranties were rumored not to be honored by the new/restructured incarnation of the company. I read this in several blogs/sites but never tested it myself due to lack of available product to hear. Is this true? And today?
 

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I have always heard good things about the sound of Tenor amps...i just recall a big questionmark over reliability of their older products, and then the company restructured and older warranties were rumored not to be honored by the new/restructured incarnation of the company. I read this in several blogs/sites but never tested it myself due to lack of available product to hear. Is this true? And today?

i owned Tenor OTL's, and then the big 300 watt Hybrid mono's 'back-in-the-day'. in fact; i was the first one to pair the Tenor OTL's and Kharma speakers (in late 2001), which went on to become quite the combination. unfortunately the OTL's had their issues (they tended to granade and take out a ceramic mid range on the Kharma). the big mono's never got fully sorted out before they were introduced and had their own issues.

the new Tenor will fix the old amps but it will cost ya.

there was never any question about the sound, they are still one of my very favorite sounding amps, both the OTL, the old hybrid monoblocks, and the new ones.
 

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Since the Anat speakers need lots of current to drive them, I don't how any tube amp can stand up to them. That's like sending a quarter horse out to run in the Belmont.
 

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Since the Anat speakers need lots of current to drive them, I don't how any tube amp can stand up to them. That's like sending a quarter horse out to run in the Belmont.

They were driving the YG with the Tenor hybrids.
 

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