Your meaning was perfectly clear, and that silly advertising slogan (which should have had the usual brief life of silly advertising slogans) sure has developed staying power
Digital or analog? Breuninger says... and asks what says you?
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Your meaning was perfectly clear, and that silly advertising slogan (which should have had the usual brief life of silly advertising slogans) sure has developed staying power
No, I see no irony. I clearly stated the CD was introduced in 1982 and you said I was off by ten years. You never stated that it took 10 years for CD to sound good after it was introduced so there was nothing hidden for me to get out my code ring and decipher what you meant.
Burmester 069 CD player ::: DIGITAL
-----"A contender for the absolute top of the state of the art in every aspect of CD listening__imaging, detail, dynamics, bass, and upper octaves__and superbly built and finished. Gets the best out of "ordinary" CDs, and not just the best recordings. Like most of its competitors (MBL 1621 A CD Transport/1611 F Digital-to-Analog Convertor / dCS Scarlatti Transport, Scarlatti Clock, Scarlatti DAC / Soulution 740) for this level of quality, it is, however, extremely expensive ($59,995) and careful auditioning is needed to determine whether its nuances are: (a) the ones you prefer, and (b) worth the cost." - Reviewed by Anthony H. Cordesman, Issue 184 of the abso!ute sound
-----"A contender for the absolute top of the state of the art in every aspect of CD listening__imaging, detail, dynamics, bass, and upper octaves__and superbly built and finished. Gets the best out of "ordinary" CDs, and not just the best recordings. Like most of its competitors (MBL 1621 A CD Transport/1611 F Digital-to-Analog Convertor / dCS Scarlatti Transport, Scarlatti Clock, Scarlatti DAC / Soulution 740) for this level of quality, it is, however, extremely expensive ($59,995) and careful auditioning is needed to determine whether its nuances are: (a) the ones you prefer, and (b) worth the cost." - Reviewed by Anthony H. Cordesman, Issue 184 of the abso!ute sound
---Andre, the 80s weren't so kind digitally for me; I still was gaining more fun listening to my analog albums. :b
But both analog and digital formats were full of crap recordings, to be perfectly sure.
Meridian CD players from that era, yes I remember very well. So Micromega ones. And Denon. ...Mirage, Image, Energy, B&W, KEF, Paradigm, ... loudspeakers.
But today is today, and yesterday was yesterday... :b
And today (for some of us, me included) is still yesterday!
...Still trying to adapt, musically & spiritually. :b
The 80s were NOT kind digitally for anybody. Mainly due to the greed of the record companies who produced CDs from LP masters..you know the ones...with tons of compression, squashed bass, and heavy eq to accommodate the vinyl format...)
But in all reality, everything is better now...ALL source components, cables, power cords, speakers....etc.
Clearaudio Statement ::: ANALOG
-----"This over-the-top, 4'-tall, 770-pound turntable/arm costs ($150,000) more than an
S-Class Mercedes, but delivers a level of LP playback that is unmatched in Don Saltzman's experience. The Statement is "utterly quiet", stable, and capable of extracting the finest detail from record grooves." - Reviewed by Don Saltzman, Issue 186 of the abso!ute sound (see also Harry Pearson's Workshop, Issue 195 from the same audio mag)
-----"This over-the-top, 4'-tall, 770-pound turntable/arm costs ($150,000) more than an
S-Class Mercedes, but delivers a level of LP playback that is unmatched in Don Saltzman's experience. The Statement is "utterly quiet", stable, and capable of extracting the finest detail from record grooves." - Reviewed by Don Saltzman, Issue 186 of the abso!ute sound (see also Harry Pearson's Workshop, Issue 195 from the same audio mag)
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I need both because not all music I like can be had in both. I prefer LP but there are CD counterparts that sound better.
Yes Andre, we all know too very well that digital era. :b ...Still have tons of those 'bad' CDs around.
Again, yes, we are much better off today as compared to the 'very bad' eighties.
...Music content as well (no more Disco: from the early 70s through the early 80s)!
-----Hey Jack, you ain't dead yet!
I'm pretty sure every LP enthusiast has come across a CD that bettered the LP. In my experience it has been of LPs of albums that were pressed of very popular albums from the CD era where the LP was no longer the main carrier medium. Mainly Pop and radio/MTV friendly fare.
see the majority of the Diana Krall Lps, PCM digital mastered and i prefer most of the CD's to the vinyl. the vinyl does have lots of large color pics of Diana, of which the value is a matter of debate.
They definitely belong on my list too. Ray Charles' Genius Loves Company, Adele 19 and 21, Christina Aguilera's Dirty, Alicia Keys, U2's How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb. it's a pretty good sized list actually.
-Several LPs from the eighties (even the seventies) in my collection aren't great sounding at all.
But the pressings from the 70s still fare better.
...The 80s were just 'very bad' for LPs in most general, and with easy understanding. ...And same with CDs. ...Cassette tapes?
Brief, the 80s were just bad all around!
But the pressings from the 70s still fare better.
...The 80s were just 'very bad' for LPs in most general, and with easy understanding. ...And same with CDs. ...Cassette tapes?
Brief, the 80s were just bad all around!
Gotta agree about the 80's in general.
It just goes to show that any medium isn't great just because they are what they are. I've seen that type of medium worship go both ways. I once saw a group ooh and aah over a dirty LP played on a poorly set up turntable declaring supremacy over a china made CD player which clearly sounded better. I've seen lots of people cry that CD was the best for this reason or that and end up buying a turntable and good records after being exposed to the same. Contrary to popular belief, ticks and pops need not be the norm, at least that's the case in my house.
It just goes to show that any medium isn't great just because they are what they are. I've seen that type of medium worship go both ways. I once saw a group ooh and aah over a dirty LP played on a poorly set up turntable declaring supremacy over a china made CD player which clearly sounded better. I've seen lots of people cry that CD was the best for this reason or that and end up buying a turntable and good records after being exposed to the same. Contrary to popular belief, ticks and pops need not be the norm, at least that's the case in my house.
80s
I remember I used to have a Fisher tube amp in the 80s with EV 12TRX., which was like a crazy thing!
Every one was going crazy with microcomponents and Cds. Once a friend brought over his CD player to show me how wrong I was, we tested the same CD against the same Lp: Rush Moving pictures. The Lps crushed the Cd back then, so I kept my TT until 94, when I came back from a long trip to the Himalayas and could not find any Lps in stores anymore, so I had to buy my first Cd player in 94 along with my first Cd, Marillion Brave...
I do have a lot of fond memories of the 80s! not music related!
I remember I used to have a Fisher tube amp in the 80s with EV 12TRX., which was like a crazy thing!
Every one was going crazy with microcomponents and Cds. Once a friend brought over his CD player to show me how wrong I was, we tested the same CD against the same Lp: Rush Moving pictures. The Lps crushed the Cd back then, so I kept my TT until 94, when I came back from a long trip to the Himalayas and could not find any Lps in stores anymore, so I had to buy my first Cd player in 94 along with my first Cd, Marillion Brave...
I do have a lot of fond memories of the 80s! not music related!
I agree. If recorded digitally, then stay in digital. If recorded in analog, stay in analog.
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