I have not received my shipment yet...probably two weeks away. I decided on two boxes since I am running dual mono grounds. Two cables each for preamp and phono stage input, two cables for main pre out to get in front of the noise going to the power amps....6 in total. It's all about capacity. It is my understanding that too many leads can reduce the improvement one hears. In the future I may also get a couple more grounds leads for the RTR output and perhaps my dac..hence the need for another box.
How is the umbilical of the Atlantis Tellus terminated at the end that connects to the Silver Tellus: single spade (as an Apollo cable) or double (as an Atlantis cable)? If double spades, can they be connected to two different Silver Tellus?
P.S. I just received a Silver Tellus and some Apollo and Atlantis cables to experiment with
How is the umbilical of the Atlantis Tellus terminated at the end that connects to the Silver Tellus: single spade (as an Apollo cable) or double (as an Atlantis cable)? If double spades, can they be connected to two different Silver Tellus?
P.S. I just received a Silver Tellus and some Apollo and Atlantis cables to experiment with
Great news.
The atlantis tellus should have two spade terminated cables for connection to two silver tellus. That is how I run mine very successfully.
You should get immediate benefits which improve still further as they settle in.The Atlantis cables can occasionally be system dependent so do compare them with the Apollos.
Happy listening and keep us posted.
Great news.
The atlantis tellus should have two spade terminated cables for connection to two silver tellus. That is how I run mine very successfully.
You should get immediate benefits which improve still further as they settle in.The Atlantis cables can occasionally be system dependent so do compare them with the Apollos.
Happy listening and keep us posted.
That's good to know, thanks. I do plan to listen to the Apollo cables before going to the Atlantis. I am also planning to compare the RCA and XLR versions of whatever cables turn out to be the best match for my line stage before starting to connect other components.
How is the umbilical of the Atlantis Tellus terminated at the end that connects to the Silver Tellus: single spade (as an Apollo cable) or double (as an Atlantis cable)? If double spades, can they be connected to two different Silver Tellus?
P.S. I just received a Silver Tellus and some Apollo and Atlantis cables to experiment with
Sure. The feedback from the early adopters from the UK and Asia has been extremely valuable. I am sure the floodgates will open now that the Entreq products are distributed in the US.
That's good to know, thanks. I do plan to listen to the Apollo cables before going to the Atlantis. I am also planning to compare the RCA and XLR versions of whatever cables turn out to be the best match for my line stage before starting to connect other components.
Good.
I am assuming that the cables are all earth cables.
The balanced connections on my amp and sources are all used for Apollo balanced i/cs so the earth cables are all RCAs. I don't know if XLR earths make any difference. My previous Magnum Dynalab 108T was used with an XLR earth but I don't recall any difference from the RCA, but my 109 has one set of RCAs and XLRs and I use the RCAs for the earth. It sounds superb and the balanced Apollo i/cs really did make a difference.
Look forward to hearing how you get on!
Swapped a couple of Apollo ground cables for Atlantis ones (the two that were connected to my two Devialets)... only been connected for a few hours and it already feels like a substantial upgrade. I can only begin to imagine how much better they will get since they are brand new! The music is so much smoother and musical, I'm also hearing a bit more detail.
Good.
I am assuming that the cables are all earth cables.
The balanced connections on my amp and sources are all used for Apollo balanced i/cs so the earth cables are all RCAs. I don't know if XLR earths make any difference. My previous Magnum Dynalab 108T was used with an XLR earth but I don't recall any difference from the RCA, but my 109 has one set of RCAs and XLRs and I use the RCAs for the earth. It sounds superb and the balanced Apollo i/cs really did make a difference.
Look forward to hearing how you get on!
According to Per-Olof, "In some systems there are a significant difference betwen XLR and RCA and in other you can´t say what is what". In is interesting that the ground pin on the Eartha Atlantis male XLR appears to be copper, while the ground connection on the Eartha Atlantis RCA appears to be silver. All the feedback I have read is that the metal matters, so I would expect a difference.
I have both RCA and XLR unused input/output connections on my line stage, so I will just try both.
Swapped a couple of Apollo ground cables for Atlantis ones (the two that were connected to my two Devialets)... only been connected for a few hours and it already feels like a substantial upgrade. I can only begin to imagine how much better they will get since they are brand new! The music is so much smoother and musical, I'm also hearing a bit more detail.
Yes that is consistent with my experience.
It is also worth bearing in mind Allvynil's advice as the US distributor that different components can work better with the different earth leads in the range as a whole. If I remember correctly Roy Gregory in his review of the Entreq grounding in Tone found that the copper cables(silver?) suited his amps best. In saying that I'm conscious that you only have the Apollo and Atlantis leads to hand but hopefully it is helpful for you and others to be aware of that
Sure. The feedback from the early adopters from the UK and Asia has been extremely valuable. I am sure the floodgates will open now that the Entreq products are distributed in the US.
Has anyone measured the resistance of the Entreq grounding boxes with a ground resistance meter/tester and compared that measurement to the ground resistance of their AC mains?
Has anyone measured the resistance of the Entreq grounding boxes with a ground resistance meter/tester and compared that measurement to the ground resistance of their AC mains?
I haven't, but is this relevant? The way I see it, the purpose of devices such as Entreq and Troy is not to provide protection from electrical shocks but to provide a separate clean ground, similar to the technical ground in recording studios.
I haven't, but is this relevant? The way I see it, the purpose of devices such as Entreq and Troy is not to provide protection from electrical shocks but to provide a separate clean ground, similar to the technical ground in recording studios.
AFAIK, the only thing a component can see is which ground path has the lowest resistance.
Do your components have the ability to see the lowest ground path noise?
I'm trying to understand how a 17" x 12" x 6" box of full whatever can provide a lower resistance ground path than a standard 6 foot long ground rod.
I spoke to two electronic experts today, and they both told me to measure the ground resistance of my home before investing in 17" x12" x 6" boxes of full whatever.
For a lot less money than the Entreq boxes, I can upgrade my home's grounding system.
AFAIK, the only thing a component can see is which ground path has the lowest resistance.
Do your components have the ability to see the lowest ground path noise?
I'm trying to understand how a 17" x 12" x 6" box of full whatever can provide a lower resistance ground path than a standard 6 foot long ground rod.
I spoke to two electronic experts today, and they both told me to measure the ground resistance of my home before investing in 17" x12" x 6" boxes of full whatever.
For a lot less money than the Entreq boxes, I can upgrade my home's grounding system.
Does this mean that the principle behind establishing a separate ground for audio/recording equipment only, avoiding any other noise-generating equipment on the line, is useless insofar as it does result in lower resistance to ground than the main AC safety ground?
Does this mean that the principle behind establishing a separate ground for audio/recording equipment only, avoiding any other noise-generating equipment on the line, is useless insofar as it does result in lower resistance to ground than the main AC safety ground?
Ooh Devert, prepare for a torrent of criticism based on your skepticism. Personally in the high end, one should maintain MAX reservations on anything until it is shown to work/be of value. Hence I have no issues w/your less than convinced attitude. I don't doubt there are sound DIY approaches to get the effects of grounding, but if you live on the top floor of an inner city apartment block like I do, a 6' ground rod is out of the question.
Snake oil exists in the high end, of that I have no doubt, and my arms remained tightly folded until Entreq showed what it could do in my system. I really was a skeptic. And if you're worried about snake oil pricing, don't even look at the prices of Entreq's direct competitor!
Although the Entreq is more about signal ground than safety ground; hence why they focus on the RCA/XLR (and in terms of signal ground they all connect).
And yeah I can get the debate then shifts to is this more beneficial when one considers signal ground and safety must join at some point within the electronics (although again depends upon circuit/section-stage design/isolation).
I am open minded about this because at least it will have no noise/garbage.
Cheers
Orb
