Entreq Tellus grounding

[Jazzhead]

Box count sure gets out of hand with all the add ons . Was wondering how the Atlanitis cable best connects at the TellUS end ? Both spades on one post or then separate posts .

 

[spiritofmusic]

Sure Jazzhead, I guess Troy might be considered more streamlined in this respect. Two S. Tellus' can support 14 grounding leads, maybe more. If I stack S. Tellus>Atlantis>S. Tellus, this will be 12" x 8" x 18", and can sit behind the rack well out of the way. S. Tellus connects to Atlantis box via a single spade-spade ground cable.

 

[Jazzhead]

Spirit , should have specified Atlantis Earth cable to S TellUS .... What's optimum , spades on separate posts or then both on one post ?

 

[spiritofmusic]

JazzH, the S. Tellus has 4 ground posts, each of which can support 2 Apollo or Atlantis ground leads, so a potential total of 8 components, 7 if one uses an Atlantis umbilical from the S. Tellus to the Atlantis add-on box. That's the manufacturer's instruction, but there may be scope for 3 leads per terminal, esp. w/use of the additional grounding of the Atlantis box. Ground leads all have spades at one end, since this is the only connection to the S. Tellus, then choice of spade/balanced/unbalanced at the other end depending on the connection into chosen component.

 

[Jazzhead]

Maybe third time lucky , Ertha Atlantis bifurcates into two spades at the TellUS end .... So was wondering ?? LL will know , he has them on separate posts if I remember correct .

 

[GuillaumeB]

Maybe third time lucky , Ertha Atlantis bifurcates into two spades at the TellUS end .... So was wondering ?? LL will know , he has them on separate posts if I remember correct .

You can have them on the same grounding post - in fact that's how the Entreq distributor installed the Atlantis cables in my system... I've just checked at the back on my Silver Tellus box. I don't think it makes any difference, it's certainly never come up in any discussion.

Guillaume

 

[Barry2013]

Maybe third time lucky , Ertha Atlantis bifurcates into two spades at the TellUS end .... So was wondering ?? LL will know , he has them on separate posts if I remember correct .

The Atlantis box comes with the spade terminated Atlantis cables for connection to two silver Tellus as you say. On my two Silver Tellus the ground cables are spades at the Tellus end and RCA at the components as my 3 balanced connections on the Vitus SIA 025 and on my sources are all used for the balanced Entreq Apollo i/cs. I did have an Atlantis xlr ground on the MD 108T prior to arrival of the balanced Apollo i/cs and am currently awaiting delivery of the unbalanced replacement. The speaker cables are grounded to a silver Minimus and the amplifiers and sources are are separated between the two Silver Tellus.
With an Atlantis box the capacity of the Silver Tellus is increased so 8 earth leads per Tellus should be no problem at all.

 

[LL21]

Yes, in my experience:

1. Try not to mix Tripoint cables and Entreq cables on same binding post.
2. I split the ends of the Atlantis on 2 different binding posts...definitely clearer
3. I am told its even ideal not to mix Atlantis and Apollo on same binding post...I agree I think...but have run out of binding posts! 14 connections on 3 binding posts. Fortunately, it works extremely well.

Let me know if you have any other questions. Hope that helps.

Maybe third time lucky , Ertha Atlantis bifurcates into two spades at the TellUS end .... So was wondering ?? LL will know , he has them on separate posts if I remember correct .

 

[LL21]

In fact, I am told the Atlantis cable being split in 2 was a specific design decision...and I am told by Distributor to ideally put 1 spade on each bindng post if possible. All I know is, it works in my system.

 

[Andre Marc]

Maybe third time lucky , Ertha Atlantis bifurcates into two spades at the TellUS end .... So was wondering ?? LL will know , he has them on separate posts if I remember correct .

Inbox full. Can't reply to PM.

 

[Jazzhead]

Hey Jazzhead - Are you going to audition?

Nope ... I ll wait and watch what Guru LL has to say , when he eventually does try one

 

[LL21]

Nope ... I ll wait and watch what Guru LL has to say , when he eventually does try one

the thought had crossed my mind, but they don't offer UK outlets, and right now, I am happy with TA Ref Power Conditioner.

 

[spiritofmusic]

Just an update on the q re unshielded Entreq ground leads. It looks like I was indeed mistaken stating no issues. My AV installer who has 20/20 hearing was aware of hum, actually hum I'd pretty much got used too. We proceeded to disconnect all the ground leads, re route my Sablon PCs avoiding as much crossing over/interaction w/ic's and spkr cables, and away from my SET transformers. Hum much reduced. Re connected the Apollo leads, and hum increased. So now I've resited the S. Tellus ground box centrally on the ground in front of my rack, and run the Apollos under the rack and up the back to each component, avoiding all interaction w/PCs. Voila - hum not re introduced.
Then proceeded to have a real Eureka moment. My trusty Burmester 948 conditioner has been gathering dust for 5 years since I went down the balanced power route, but I've never got 'round to selling it. Thank the Lord now. My AV guy suggested I run my SET monoblocks and Zu sub amps direct into the transformer, the Burmester into a spare outlet on it, and my preamp/tt psu/cdp/av extension mutisoicket off the Burmester, NOT direct off the transformer.
Wow, yet another massive step twds Nirvana. Hum reduced, so all the benefits of reduced noise floor, w/a real increase in speed/dynamics.
This is such a revelation, that I'm making a big decision pretty much to step off the power/grounding upgrade merry-go-'round. I love my journey to this point, Entreq and Westwick (now w/Burmester) having transformed my system. But I really feel I'm getting a level of performance such that I'm not driven to investigate more. My only curiosity remains a Cleanus to ground the mains, and poss a drip feed of Apollo to Atlantis cable upgrades.

 

[Barry2013]

Entreq Receivus pricing is now out and being distributed.

Lloyd. I recall you mentioning briefly your acquisition of a few Receivus and the benefits of an Apollo earth lead but unless I have missed a fuller post I don't recall a more extensive post on your experiences with them. Did you find greater benefits with some components plus further improvements with more, or were the benefits evenly distributed?

 

[LL21]

Lloyd. I recall you mentioning briefly your acquisition of a few Receivus and the benefits of an Apollo earth lead but unless I have missed a fuller post I don't recall a more extensive post on your experiences with them. Did you find greater benefits with some components plus further improvements with more, or were the benefits evenly distributed?

Hi Barry2013,

Yes, I held off until it was officially out and even the hints were only after getting permission to do so. I would consider the Receivus to do for amps, power conditioners, power supplies what the Entreq ground cables do for grounding signal.

I use 4...3 with Apollo cable and 1 with Atlantis cable. And note that I already signal-ground the Zanden DAC, but the Receivus plus Atlantis just continued to remove heretofore unknown grunge. Did great work with the Colosseum and Zanden Transport PSU.

Whatever an Atlantis cable does for signal via RCA connection, a Receivus has a similar affect when sitting atop equipment. It is that good.

 

[spiritofmusic]

Guys, if my experience of the Burmester conditioner supplying only non-power components, fed into my transformer, the latter supplying only my power components, being a quantum leap fwd is likely to be the case w/others, you should audition the Powerus, which Fraser independently advised connecting up the same way as my Westwick/Burmester. I strongly suspect it'll be a winning combination, maybe more revealing than Atlantis add-on/Receivus.

 

[Barry2013]

Hi Barry2013,

Yes, I held off until it was officially out and even the hints were only after getting permission to do so. I would consider the Receivus to do for amps, power conditioners, power supplies what the Entreq ground cables do for grounding signal.

I use 4...3 with Apollo cable and 1 with Atlantis cable. And note that I already signal-ground the Zanden DAC, but the Receivus plus Atlantis just continued to remove heretofore unknown grunge. Did great work with the Colosseum and Zanden Transport PSU.

Whatever an Atlantis cable does for signal via RCA connection, a Receivus has a similar affect when sitting atop equipment. It is that good.

Thanks Lloyd.
That is very helpful as ever.

 

[LL21]

Guys, if my experience of the Burmester conditioner supplying only non-power components...you should audition the Powerus... I strongly suspect it'll be a winning combination, maybe more revealing than Atlantis add-on/Receivus.

Could be...it all seems to start with power. It would be interesting to compare with the Transp Ref Power Conditioner with the Powerus Atlantis. hmmm...

 

[spiritofmusic]

Lloyd, I believe there are at least 3 levels of Powerus. Challenger Powerus at £3300 is prob the most appropriate price/performance model (esp. in my case where had I decked out my system w/Entreq PCs I would have gone Challenger), but at 2-3x the price Atlantis Powerus would be SOTA, and a great complement to an all-Atlantis loom.
My point is that a really radical impvt has been wrought from my system in separating power/non-power components, and if I didn't have the Burmester to hand, the Powerus would take that role. I have no doubts a Challenger Powerus may well outperform my Burmester, but the level of SQ I've got to, I'm really happy not to look beyond.

 

[GuillaumeB]

As far as I understand the PowerUs is more of a distribution block which connects to a ground box and uses very high quality Furutech GTX-D fittings.

The CleanUs is a mains filter which can be used in conjunction with the PowerUs.

In my case seeing as I run separate circuits to each wall socket (Furutech GTX-D) I use two Cleanii (!) to connect to each socket feeding my two Devialet units (configured in dual mono).

In addition my Atlantis mains cables have earth drains (Atlantis earth cables) which connect to a Silver Telus box. I use US-style wall sockets and plugs which are therefore unfused.

Cheers

Guillaume