Golden Gate DAC arrives.

Robert Stanley? And Greg in the UK.

I heard that Mooks are very good, but never tried them.

They are the best. In hifi I know of two products I will never sell. Lampi and mooks - And as much as I love Lampi, mooks have stood the test of time and, frankly, have far lesser competition.
 
They are the best. In hifi I know of two products I will never sell. Lampi and mooks - And as much as I love Lampi, mooks have stood the test of time and, frankly, have far lesser competition.
Which ones? Diamond/ Giant or Ultras for the Lampi?
 
Which ones? Diamond/ Giant or Ultras for the Lampi?

You can do both. Giants will be better, but ultras are great too. I have two sets of giants and one of ultras.
 
So is Bill - he has 42 Shun mook mpingo discs and is planning to get a mook frame for his whole GG.

But yes, dminches, I will never use stillpoints again, having owned them previously, and compared them in various systems to shun mooks. This is for components only and I haven't tried them under speakers. To get more info on shun mooks, you can ask other lampi users like Bill, there is a lampi dealer here named Robert (forget his id), and the UK lampi distributor (who is not on here). Audiocrack and cuntigh also use mooks though under non lampi components (I don't think Audiocrack has got one for his GG yet). Spiritofmusic is also into them

+ Moi--I use the Mook SDR's and Stillpoints -agree the SM's "outpoint" the Stillpoints particularly if your sonics tend on the bright side.


BruceD
 
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I've been running in the PCM engine and I'm really liking it! :D Some of the best PCM I've heard yet, and it's not even broken in.

On the DSD side the unit is really coming along. I'm getting a more 3 dimensional sound and the bass and body are coming in nicely. Overall, a big thumbs up.

Mike dropped off a Regen and a USB cable for me to try out.
 
You can do both. Giants will be better, but ultras are great too. I have two sets of giants and one of ultras.

I assume the SMs sit between the shelf and the chassis, not the feet?
 
I assume the SMs sit between the shelf and the chassis, not the feet?

Yes. The. SDRs that BruceD refers to are the super diamond resonators, which are smaller than the ultra, which I haven't tried.
 
Ppp
So is Bill - he has 42 Shun mook mpingo discs and is planning to get a mook frame for his whole GG.

But yes, dminches, I will never use stillpoints again, having owned them previously, and compared them in various systems to shun mooks. This is for components only and I haven't tried them under speakers. To get more info on shun mooks, you can ask other lampi users like Bill, there is a lampi dealer here named Robert (forget his id), and the UK lampi distributor (who is not on here). Audiocrack and cuntigh also use mooks though under non lampi components (I don't think Audiocrack has got one for his GG yet). Spiritofmusic is also into them

Hello Bonzo75,

I have been using various Shun Mook items such as their feet, sextet and mpingo discs for at least 10 years now so I suppose you can conclude that I am very fond of them. The reason why I am not using them under my GG dac so far is the following: if you want to be critical on the GG - and please keep in mind that I really love it, in particular dsd 128 sounds awfully good in combination with my Kondo equipment and Tidal LA loudspeakers
(have not yet tried dsd 256) - it is its focussing capabities. My Trinity combo sounds clearly more focussed and precise. Maybe it is only my set up as the LA speakers probably still need additional playing time (have around 550 hours on them) and maybe the LA's need to be repositioned in my room (and I can assure you that moving around 485 kg speakers is not particular pleasant). Or maybe it is only my GG as it was one of the very first if not the very first GG Lukasz produced. One thing the Shun Mook feet are not doing imho is better focussing. So I am sure that using Shun Mook feet under the GG would improve its performance in many aspects, but the aspect of focussing is holding me back.

So my question to all GG users is: what are your feelings about casu quo experiences with the GG regarding the aspect of focussing?
 
Hello Bonzo75,

I have been using various Shun Mook items such as their feet, sextet and mpingo discs for at least 10 years now so I suppose you can conclude that I am very fond of them. The reason why I am not using them under my GG dac so far is the following: if you want to be critical on the GG - and please keep in mind that I really love it, in particular dsd 128 sounds awfully good in combination with my Kondo equipment and Tidal LA loudspeakers
(have not yet tried dsd 256) - it is its focussing capabities. My Trinity combo sounds clearly more focussed and precise. Maybe it is only my set up as the LA speakers probably still need additional playing time (have around 550 hours on them) and maybe the LA's need to be repositioned in my room (and I can assure you that moving around 485 kg speakers is not particular pleasant). One thing the Shun Mook feet are not doing imho is better focussing. So I am sure that using Shun Mook feet under the GG would improve its performance in many aspects, but the aspect of focussing is holding me back.

So my question to all GG users is: what are your feelings about casu quo experiences with the GG regarding the aspect of focussing?

Hi don't you think by changing where the dots point you get better focus?

Also wrt the GG, your perspective on focus will change depending on the valves used.
 
Hi don't you think by changing where the dots point you get better focus?

Also wrt the GG, your perspective on focus will change depending on the valves used.

Your first point: no, I do not think so. Of course misusing the SM feet will not help (but I know how they should be used) but in my opinion it is a characteristic of these feet that focussing is not one of their strong points.

Your second point: you might be right. Still using the tubes Lukasz supplied the GG with because I want to be sure it is fully broken in before I start with tube rolling.

What is your opinion on focussing of the GG dac Bonzo?
 
Your first point: no, I do not think so. Of course misusing the SM feet will not help (but I know how they should be used) but in my opinion it is a characteristic of these feet that focussing is not one of their strong point.

Your second point: you might be right. Still using the tubes Lukasz supplied the GG with because I want to be sure it is fully broken in before I start with tube rolling.

What is your opinion on focussing of the GG dac Bonzo?

That's tough. I think focusing is so much based on speakers and room. I haven't been sensitive to lampi's focus before. Next time I compare the lampi with something I will keep that in mind.

Lukas has supplied different stock tubes with GGs based on what he had in stock then. You have 45s Bruce with his balanced has replica 101ds

Best is if you take your trinity to the tidal room, or the lampi to the genesis room, that will tell us :). Especially trinity to tidal room as that takes tubes out of the picture
 
That's tough. I think focusing is so much based on speakers and room. I haven't been sensitive to lampi's focus before. Next time I compare the lampi with something I will keep that in mind.

Lukas has supplied different stock tubes with GGs based on what he had in stock then. You have 45s Bruce with his balanced has replica 101ds

Best is if you take your trinity to the tidal room, or the lampi to the genesis room, that will tell us :). Especially trinity to tidal room as that takes tubes out of the picture

Btw, my GG was supplied with psvane 101d tubes.
 
On another note, this is how Greg Baron uses Shun Mook for his UHA tape decks. He has had some custom designed to fit under his speaker as well (added spikes on top to go into the speaker).

Some of the mooks inside are custom designed for him, and he also has those boards on the side of the tape deck that can be applied to the GG, I think, if done properly.

http://unitedhomeaudio.com/shun_mook_for_the_uha_tape_d.htm
 
Ah ok sorry I thought it was 45s. I love Psvanes. Maybe you can try 300b.

No reason at all for sorry Bonzo and yes, 300b tubes are definately on my wish list. Thinking about the Elrog 300b tubes but I am not sure if they are reliable. Does any GG owner has experience with the Elrog 300b tubes?
 
Ppp

Hello Bonzo75,

One thing the Shun Mook feet are not doing imho is better focussing. So I am sure that using Shun Mook feet under the GG would improve its performance in many aspects, but the aspect of focussing is holding me back.


The Mook Resonators are "Tunable"-- there is a Dot showing orientation you can turn them on the pucks to your satisfaction

I.E You normally start with the rear one(s) on 6 oclock the L facing on 7 the R facing on 5--listen and revolve them as you deem

This may help your focus

BruceD
 
No reason at all for sorry Bonzo and yes, 300b tubes are definately on my wish list. Thinking about the Elrog 300b tubes but I am not sure if they are reliable. Does any GG owner has experience with the Elrog 300b tubes?

Lot of GG owners love Elrogs (check on audioshark), but the Elrog tubes don't have a good reputation for reliability. There was a thread to that effect on WBF if you search for Elrogs
 
The Mook Resonators are "Tunable"-- there is a Dot showing orientation you can turn them on the pucks to your satisfaction

I.E You normally start with the rear one(s) on 6 oclock the L facing on 7 the R facing on 5--listen and revolve them as you deem

This may help your focus

BruceD

Many thanks BruceD. Appreciate your advise. I have been working with SM devices for many years so I believe (and hope) that I know how they should be used. However, in my view focussing has never been their strongest point. But maybe you disagree in this respect?
 
Lot of GG owners love Elrogs (check on audioshark), but the Elrog tubes don't have a good reputation for reliability. There was a thread to that effect on WBF if you search for Elrogs

Thanks Bonzo. I did participate in this thread on WBF because I heard a few 'horror' stories about the Elrog 845 and 300b tubes. However I was hoping that the Elrog 300b tubes would be reliable in combination with the GG because they are only used lightly in comparison to power amps. Just wondering whether my hope is justified or not.
 
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You guys know about my love/hate for Elrog 845s. By far the best ones out there re SQ, but truly unaccepatable reliability. In the 9 months I owned them I was onto my second replacement pair. Stellar sound, shame about the rest.
Had I stuck w/my Audion SETs, beyond the next breakdown I would have taken a hit and gone to Shuguang B 845s.
My Audion dealer had just quit supplying KR 845s for similar reasons.
 

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