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HIFISTAY Vibration Control & Accessories
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As an update, John kindly sent me the Stella 100's to try, and compare to the Ballerino 88's.
Wow - I thought the Ballerino were quite special, but I wasn't quite prepared for improvements the Stella 100 would bring.
There are two things that are obviously improved:
Firstly is the start / stop precision - leading edges are crisp and clearly delineated, but not exaggerated. This improves the timing and coherence of the music.
Secondly is the energy transmitted into the room - I've never noticed so much vibration felt through the arms of my sofa! This translates into a much more realistic musical experience as the dynamics appear much more life-like.
The above combine to grab your attention much more - I'm typing this and getting regularly distracted by the music. For some this may be too much as it can create real tension in exactly the same way listening to live music does. I should note that this precision never becomes harsh in any way though.
One thought keeps occurring to me - I never realised what my speakers were capable of until now!
As a final experiment, I placed the Ballerino underneath my subs and listened to them in isolation. The improvement in coherence of the sub-bass was noticeable, and when integrated back with the main speakers makes for compelling listening.
As these are the only feet I have tried beneath my speakers I have no idea how their performance compares to anything else out there, but having searched for some time there doesn't appear to be anything else that fits so easily beneath heavy spiked speakers with very little increase in height. As such, they are a compelling addition for my set-up.
Wow - I thought the Ballerino were quite special, but I wasn't quite prepared for improvements the Stella 100 would bring.
There are two things that are obviously improved:
Firstly is the start / stop precision - leading edges are crisp and clearly delineated, but not exaggerated. This improves the timing and coherence of the music.
Secondly is the energy transmitted into the room - I've never noticed so much vibration felt through the arms of my sofa! This translates into a much more realistic musical experience as the dynamics appear much more life-like.
The above combine to grab your attention much more - I'm typing this and getting regularly distracted by the music. For some this may be too much as it can create real tension in exactly the same way listening to live music does. I should note that this precision never becomes harsh in any way though.
One thought keeps occurring to me - I never realised what my speakers were capable of until now!
As a final experiment, I placed the Ballerino underneath my subs and listened to them in isolation. The improvement in coherence of the sub-bass was noticeable, and when integrated back with the main speakers makes for compelling listening.
As these are the only feet I have tried beneath my speakers I have no idea how their performance compares to anything else out there, but having searched for some time there doesn't appear to be anything else that fits so easily beneath heavy spiked speakers with very little increase in height. As such, they are a compelling addition for my set-up.
I had 2 sets of Gaia-II, and 2 sets of Gyrotension Vega (M-size) earlier generation, without a center spring.
Experimented them on my speakers.
I very much prefer HifiStay products, because they sound more "music(al)" to me.
Just my personal choice.
(IsoAcoustics are directional, so have to know how they are set up, in relation to the drivers.)
Thanks for the feedback. One of the reasons I chose the Gaia is my belief that because of the polymer that they use, there would be less bass transmission into the concrete floor vs a spike shoe made out of metal. I'd like to reduce this effect for my below neighbours.
Has anyone been able to compare the effect of both regarding this?
Has anyone been able to compare the effect of both regarding this?
Coincidentally, we have the same consideration for our neighbours, as I live in an apartment too.
Ill get then next week and try. Maybe I can find a dealer where I can borrow the hifistay to compare.Coincidentally, we have the same consideration for our neighbours, as I live in an apartment too.
Hi everyone and a big thank for sharing about hifistay, it's been in my mind for some time to move from my townshend platforms to something with a smaller footprint (I do love what my platforms are doing to the sound though) and this discussion here is pushing me to consider the change.
I'm little late to the discussion but I can't see reference to the Stella 100 triple swing anywhere on the net (except here). Are these prototypes or only commercialised in Korea (my distributor tells me the highest Stella number is 60 and that if I'm looking for the best I need to look at the ballerino)?
I'm little late to the discussion but I can't see reference to the Stella 100 triple swing anywhere on the net (except here). Are these prototypes or only commercialised in Korea (my distributor tells me the highest Stella number is 60 and that if I'm looking for the best I need to look at the ballerino)?
Hi;
Regarding Stella 100 information i got from John (HiFiStay BD manager) is that this model is currently commercialized only in Korea which I guess does not mean if you contact John directly he can't provide them as such. And I believe Stella is above Ballerino in terms of performance but I might be wrong. If you need contact from John let me know via PM.
Cheers;
G
I just received deeply saddening news from John Lim that Mr. Naiwon Pyun mastermind and CEO of HiFi Stay suddenly passed away yesterday in Korea. Truly truly shocked and sad.
R.I.P. Mr. Pyun
R.I.P. Mr. Pyun
Just to copy my post from Lampi Horizon thread regarding performance of HardPoint Trinia and AbsolutePoint:
"I have both sets of those Trina as production unit and Absolute Point as final pre production evaluation set. As you did, I also had several buddies present (who know my system well) to do the "shootout" of footers in the following sequence: Stock H -> Trinia -> Absolute -> Absolute + Stainless Cap and recently I received from John pure copper caps and special hard wood caps for Absolute. All those caps were made by Mr. Pyun primarily based on the comments/ideas from Rudolf @Audiocrack who was instrumental in giving detailed feedback.
I believe there is no need to describe the sound of stock unit as it's phenomenal as is. Adding Trinia in the mix things get instantly and noticeably improved in terms of timing/dynamics, decay of the notes and overall "calmness" in the presentation - can't really find better word. Inserting Absolute things get further improved and again not for the small margin but we had a feeling it was a tad edgy overall - not in a fatigue manner but maybe as you said too much of a good thing. So we placed stainless steel caps as a medium between small ceramic balls on Absolute and the bottom of Horizon and then all just settled in the most beautiful way possible by all means. Nothing in terms of edginess what we noticed and what was left was just pure joy and music. AbsolutePoint as such are things not leaving my room ever (nor any of the HiFiStay stuff as a matter of the fact).
What I need to add is that I was using them only under tube gear as somehow to me that makes full sense while great thing is that Rudolf is using/testing them under his Zenden transport hence we have different data point for Johns. Also I initiated with John to try to produce different caps from hardwood while Rudolf advised for pure copper ones which I ended using as well as it seems that they add a touch of additional warmth to the presentation. I still need to evaluate properly the hard wood caps but as advised by John, those were only trial production ones and seems like not ending in the final production runs.
BTW Trinia ended under Tobian preamp as there they are making their mojo"
"I have both sets of those Trina as production unit and Absolute Point as final pre production evaluation set. As you did, I also had several buddies present (who know my system well) to do the "shootout" of footers in the following sequence: Stock H -> Trinia -> Absolute -> Absolute + Stainless Cap and recently I received from John pure copper caps and special hard wood caps for Absolute. All those caps were made by Mr. Pyun primarily based on the comments/ideas from Rudolf @Audiocrack who was instrumental in giving detailed feedback.
I believe there is no need to describe the sound of stock unit as it's phenomenal as is. Adding Trinia in the mix things get instantly and noticeably improved in terms of timing/dynamics, decay of the notes and overall "calmness" in the presentation - can't really find better word. Inserting Absolute things get further improved and again not for the small margin but we had a feeling it was a tad edgy overall - not in a fatigue manner but maybe as you said too much of a good thing. So we placed stainless steel caps as a medium between small ceramic balls on Absolute and the bottom of Horizon and then all just settled in the most beautiful way possible by all means. Nothing in terms of edginess what we noticed and what was left was just pure joy and music. AbsolutePoint as such are things not leaving my room ever (nor any of the HiFiStay stuff as a matter of the fact).
What I need to add is that I was using them only under tube gear as somehow to me that makes full sense while great thing is that Rudolf is using/testing them under his Zenden transport hence we have different data point for Johns. Also I initiated with John to try to produce different caps from hardwood while Rudolf advised for pure copper ones which I ended using as well as it seems that they add a touch of additional warmth to the presentation. I still need to evaluate properly the hard wood caps but as advised by John, those were only trial production ones and seems like not ending in the final production runs.
BTW Trinia ended under Tobian preamp as there they are making their mojo
"Very sad indeed. Mister Pyun was a great (audio) mind: his footers are gorgeously and geniusly made. Furthermore he kept on pushing the (footers) boundaries. He will indeed be greatly missed
Indeed mister Pyun was so kind on my request to supply to both Goran / Golum and me some gorgeously made copper caps for his top of the line Absolute Point footers. I asked - their London based distributor - John if this would be possible because adding the stainless steel caps to these footers clearly bettered their performance and I was curious to found out what copper made caps would bring to the table. So far I have been using four Hifistay Absolute Point footers under my Zanden 2000p cd-transport. The latter is standing on a 99,95% pure copper platform (untreated) of one inch while being connected to my Wadax reference dac.
Top notch footers like Hifistay’s Absolute Point footers can have a significant influence on the sound reproduction of an audio system, albeit not as significant as for instance top notch grounding. That said I am really impressed with the performance of these Hifistay footers under my Zanden cd-transport: the most profound effect to my ears is the additional openness they bring to the table. Furthermore they clearly attributed to the speed and tightness of in particular the low end: the Wadax reference dac is in my view phenomenal in producing the bottom octaves in music and the Hifistay Absolute Point footers contributed clearly and significantly in that department.
The reason why I asked John and mister Pyun if it would be possible to produce pure copper caps in addition to the stainless steel caps they provided initially with the Absolute Point footers was that pure copper to my ears sounds more natural, that is less mechanical, than stainless steel. Yes, you might lose some of the openness that stainless steel provides but from a tonality point of view I clearly prefer the copper caps. The pure copper caps sound more ‘natural’ to me.
In short, mister Pyun created with his top of the line Absolute Point and pure copper caps some great looking, ingeniously made and really great sounding footers. So to all WBF members that are on the look out for some impressive sounding and beautifully made footers: please give the Hifistay Absolute Point footers a try because you might me equally impressed by them as Goran and I are!
Top notch footers like Hifistay’s Absolute Point footers can have a significant influence on the sound reproduction of an audio system, albeit not as significant as for instance top notch grounding. That said I am really impressed with the performance of these Hifistay footers under my Zanden cd-transport: the most profound effect to my ears is the additional openness they bring to the table. Furthermore they clearly attributed to the speed and tightness of in particular the low end: the Wadax reference dac is in my view phenomenal in producing the bottom octaves in music and the Hifistay Absolute Point footers contributed clearly and significantly in that department.
The reason why I asked John and mister Pyun if it would be possible to produce pure copper caps in addition to the stainless steel caps they provided initially with the Absolute Point footers was that pure copper to my ears sounds more natural, that is less mechanical, than stainless steel. Yes, you might lose some of the openness that stainless steel provides but from a tonality point of view I clearly prefer the copper caps. The pure copper caps sound more ‘natural’ to me.
In short, mister Pyun created with his top of the line Absolute Point and pure copper caps some great looking, ingeniously made and really great sounding footers. So to all WBF members that are on the look out for some impressive sounding and beautifully made footers: please give the Hifistay Absolute Point footers a try because you might me equally impressed by them as Goran and I are!
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here is a picture of the Absolute point footers with and without the copper cap
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And here is a picture of my Zanden 2000p cd-transport with four Hifistay Absolute Point footers (you can see only two of them btw)
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