High-Performance Stereo With Stock Power Cords?

[XV-1]

Not sure why there is so much negativity with Ted posting. I find it refreshing to have him giving his opinion on cables and streaming coming from a manufacturer.

For you guys in the USA, he has offered to listen to his cables at home.

Sometimes I think people just like to whinge and whine.

 

[twitch]

isn't a battery 'electrical' ?

 

[Porsche]

isn't a battery 'electrical' ?

should have worded differently, battery power over 120ac

 

[Ron Resnick]

Advertising talk in one thing, but promoting and selling pure snake oil and nonsense is worse .Why people keep donating money to these high end snake oil producers is astonishing.Only a very tiny amount of knowledge is needed to se through the silly nonsense and impossible claims.

So anything you personally don't happen to like is snake oil? I thought most members of WBF had moved past such arrogance and petulance.

There are piles of products made by loads of brands whose attempted technical explanations don't satisfy me. But that is an independent variable from the audiophiles who buy such products and who enjoy their effect on the sound of their systems.

Objectivists are probably better suited for ASR than WBF.

 

[PeterA]

The market is filled with excellent equipment that pleases my preferences.

I agree. I replaced my entire system in a matter of two weeks about three years ago. With something that “pleases my preferences”. Actually my power cords remained from the old system to the new system. And I think one cartridge.

 

[ssfas]

Yes, but you see those are not Quantum.

A quantum is a pesky little thing. It may be tiny but it costs you a boatload of money.

I’m with you in that I use both the words quantum and graphene as an instantaneous filter when excluding products that I’m considering reading about. Sooner or later there’ll be nothing left to read about and I can just listen to music.

 

[wil]

I come at this from what I hear in the music I enjoy not from a list of audiophile attributes that comes across as marketing-speak rather what one might hear from a concert goer. I don't know what is meant by the modifiers 'controlled' and 'extended' in this context. Leaving a live performance, I've never thought to myself "wow, tonight the orchestra really controlled the low frquencies."

While it can be an effect of stereo to a limited degree, I do not experience a "massive holographic sound stage" in a concert hall. I know instruments and where sound comes from. If I close my eyes in the concert hall I hear an orchestra in a hall.

Music is dynamic. Live music has a subtle dynamic that can be reproduced by a stereo to a degree. Equally or more important important than dynamic range is the size of the steps, the incremental difference between dynamic states. Small variation in dynamic steps. -- moreso, e.g. than ppp to pp -- is a sign of. vivacity, of lifelikeness in reproduction.



Acoustic music can be flawed but not in the way stereo reproduction can be flawed. Musicians play their instruments and the performance you are at is what it is for you at your location. Some musicians and performances are better than others. I don't know if that is a flaw of acoustic music. But without it, there is no guide to what your reproduction is a reproduction of.

The relation of the soloist to the orchestral collective is interesting. Traditionally it was the orchestra that began a concerto and set the pace and phrasing for the soloist. That changed with Beethoven's 4th Piano Concerto. That piece broke with tradition, beginning not with the orchestra but with the piano. Its opening bars are a tiny hymn with a subtle genius that places the soloist (the hero) on an equal footing with the authority of the collective. Sometimes the conductor is unwilling to take yoke of the soloist's phrasing and thus this tug-of-war yields an unbalanced performance.

It was a guest conductor. Maybe she hadn't developed an understanding of the hall or the communication with the orchestra was lacking. It's less like an aesthetic decision and more like a large blunder to me.

It's interesting to read a conversation with Seiji Ozawa where he talks about early performances and recordings of Mahler where the sound of the orchestra as a whole was emphasized at the expense of the detail of the individual instruments. He goes onto say that digital recordings and the more detail they can provide have influenced the preferences of the players and conductors (speaking of himself) away from the en masse sound to one where the inner voices of all the instruments have more space.

 

[PeterA]

The stuff has to be peddled somewhere, and the manufacturers probably pay for some of the forum costs.

And the industry as a whole, thrives on these tweeks with a totally unknown efficacy and a healthy amount of markup.

What did you expect @miniguy ?

Someone told me once that a bunch of dealerships would go out of business if they couldn’t sell wires and accessories. Interestingly, my dealer sells neither.

 

[Lagonda]

Someone told me once that a bunch of dealerships would go out of business if they couldn’t sell wires and accessories. Interestingly, my dealer sells neither.

I bought 11 power cords from him, probably at cost !

 

[PeterA]

I am glad to see you finally admit that this website has sold out.

I joined to learn from those with the greatest experience with the finest music reproduction systems ever devised, not to read blatant advertising dressed up as informative facts.

I realise now that you are in this not for altruistic reasons but to make money, but even so there should have been a way to keep an equal mix of authentic bias-free information in there. Lately, every thread seems to have been started, and most of the responses provided by, just one manufacturer.

If you needed more money why not ask those like me to pay an annual subscription to get access to a part of the website that would be free of commercials ( not free of manufacturers as long as on that part of the website they keep their discussions to the subject and only what their personal experience in that subject has taught them). Peer review of a subject is meaningless if biased commercial interest is allowed to dilute/muddy that knowledge so that none of it can be relied upon.

I stopped viewing Sound Practices, Stereophile, Hi-Fi News and Record Review, TAS and the rest when they sold out and no longer could be trusted to provide truthful information. It is now time to leave this forum as well. Please remove all of my personal information from your records and disconnect me from WBF.

Sorry to see if you leave Mark. You follow in the footsteps of others who are also missed.

 

[Ted Denney III]

Guys my new AI BOT girlfriend wants a present for Valentines day .

Guess what ......a new power cord .....Ted ??

Make it a thick one

 

[Republicoftexas69]

It is not always "obvious" to me. I avoided threads on Taiko as I am not into digital. My concern is that with advertisers disguising their sales patter as unbiased insight amongst legitimate discussions, it taints the entire discussion as unbelievable. If I can't trust what is written here, then why bother?

I stopped viewing Sound Practices, Stereophile, Hi-Fi News and Record Review, TAS and the rest when they sold out and no longer could be trusted to provide truthful information. It is now time to leave this forum as well. Please remove all of my personal information from your records and disconnect me from WBF.

Thought you quit this forum? Is it your broke back mountain?

 

[Republicoftexas69]

Not an airport, no need to announce departure.

Real classy.

 

[Al M.]

I’m with you in that I use both the words quantum and graphene as an instantaneous filter when excluding products that I’m considering reading about. Sooner or later there’ll be nothing left to read about and I can just listen to music.

Masterbuilt Cables also used to have abundant "quantum" language a number of years ago. But after a lot of backlash, not the least on WBF, they purged their language from the term. I didn't find it on their current website.

 

[Ted Denney III]

Masterbuilt Cables also used to have abundant "quantum" language a number of years ago. But after a lot of backlash, not the least on WBF, they purged their language from the term. I didn't find it on their current website.

Except, we have actual Quantum Technology. I don’t recall the Hong Kong quantum rip-off fuse company, heavily pushed on WBF last year and the year before, receiving much, if any, pushback. Likely, someone (or multiple people) stood to gain from that company’s success—a company that copied my business model down to naming their fuses after colors but charged thousands of dollars per fuse. They offered no returns if you didn’t like the product or if the fuse blew, all while relying on marketing speak without being called out. And today? They have all but disappeared— classic PUMP AND DUMP.

For the record, I will be on this forum for one year. During this time, I will share what we are doing in the industry and how we continue to lead in our product categories while other manufacturers copy our innovations.

 

[Porsche]

@Ted Denney III you make some nice products, ive used a couple, but there's always better and that's just life, u ned chill a bit and im fine with you marketing your product etc as long as you dont come across as a pompous a55

 

[andromedaaudio]

I’m with you in that I use both the words quantum and graphene as an instantaneous filter when excluding products that I’m considering reading about. Sooner or later there’ll be nothing left to read about and I can just listen to music.

Im resistant to all audiophile vocabulary these days .
My brain simply doesnt store it anymore .

 

[Synaxis]

classic PUMP AND DUMP.

This is the strategy used today by certain people who are Youtube dealer/reviewers and sell what they are supposedly reviewing.

They get in product, do a video about how "awesome" it is to try and drive up the price of the unit they are selling.

 

[Rensselaer]

Thought you quit this forum? Is it your broke back mountain?

I was asked by one of the owners and a moderator, by private mail, to please hold off leaving while they discuss my points amongst those involved. I’m holding, just checked to see if anything has been decided when I found your querry. What does “Is it your broke back mountain” mean?

 

[Ted Denney III]

This is the strategy used today by certain people who are Youtube dealer/reviewers and sell what they are supposedly reviewing.

They get in product, do a video about how "awesome" it is to try and drive up the price of the unit they are selling.

100% Miami calling