Hip-Hop/Rap Music?
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No worries 
Does this also work for you?
On current release, the album is Shedding Skin by Ghost Poet.
It is a magnificent piece of work, an album that demands to be played start to finish
Does this also work for you?
On current release, the album is Shedding Skin by Ghost Poet.
It is a magnificent piece of work, an album that demands to be played start to finish
Very well said.
That says a lot about the intolerance of rappers and their proponents.
We don't call people who don't like classical music and opera "stupid children with no appreciation for good music that has stood the test of time." It's their loss.
Bruce B
WBF Founding Member, Pro Audio Production Member
Bruce B
WBF Founding Member, Pro Audio Production Member
According to folks in the Industry.... they feel this is the best recorded/mixed/mastered album ever....
Mark Seaton
WBF Technical Expert (Speaker & Acoustics)
Yeah..... these are called "Pop filters".....
Yes, that largely fixes the problems in the studio. Having more past experience relative to the live sound world than studio I was thinking more about this sort of anti-rapper, microphone modification (to be fair, plenty of heavy metal singers cup the mic as well):
My office is less than a mile from Shure's headquarters and I have a few friends and customers who work there, I recall one of them mocked up a more medieval looking version of the above that was pretty amusing.
What too many love to do:
Image I've seen used a few times:
Gary, you'd get along finely and wisely with some of my friends and I, very. :b
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• http://time.com/4433313/kanye-west-apple-tidal-jayz/
There is no need for introduction; we have millions of Rap videos with not only a bad attitude, but also with bad lyrics, bad vocals, extremely boring beats (I don't call it music), a bunch of wannabe gangsters/drug dealers/sexploitation/guns violence.
The best side of it? People who don't buy it, stay far away from it, and dance to the rhythm of life in simplicity with happiness and emotions of love.
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• http://time.com/4433313/kanye-west-apple-tidal-jayz/
There is no need for introduction; we have millions of Rap videos with not only a bad attitude, but also with bad lyrics, bad vocals, extremely boring beats (I don't call it music), a bunch of wannabe gangsters/drug dealers/sexploitation/guns violence.
The best side of it? People who don't buy it, stay far away from it, and dance to the rhythm of life in simplicity with happiness and emotions of love.
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My best friend is from Africa; a sax player.
I'm French myself, Canada.
My second best friend is from Ireland.
My love is from Germany.
My investments are from the Netherlands, some of them.
My musician friends play the pianos, the guitars, the saxophones, the flutes, the drums, the violins, the cellos, accordions, harmonicas, acoustic bass, ...
...Folk singers, Opera singers, Blues, Jazz, New Age, Calypso, Traditional, World.
I'm French myself, Canada.
My second best friend is from Ireland.
My love is from Germany.
My investments are from the Netherlands, some of them.
My musician friends play the pianos, the guitars, the saxophones, the flutes, the drums, the violins, the cellos, accordions, harmonicas, acoustic bass, ...
...Folk singers, Opera singers, Blues, Jazz, New Age, Calypso, Traditional, World.
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Sorry, but not even close.
I still hear the same repetitive, simple rhythms, simple time signature, the same lack of musicianship, only a couple chords, etc.
This may be a genius example of rap/hip hop, but the musical form just does not interest me, based purely on it's musical attributes.
I'm not saying that this genre should be more complex, or have more chords, or better musicianship, etc. I am just saying that I am not interested in musical genres that do have those attributes.
I am not singling out rap and hip hop as genres I don't like. I feel the same way toward pop, blues, 3 chord rock, country and any other musical forms that use simple song structure.
infinitely baffled, you are an audiophile, a genuine music lover; why are you listening to some of that stuff, do you have bazooka subwoofers in your car, do you wear thick and long gold chains from your ears to your nose, do you have parties with kegs of beer and naked women, do you keep your lawn wild? :b
I am humorous in case.
I am humorous in case.
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Complexity simulates the mind, simplicity stimulates the body. Steady rhythms and simple time signatures do exactly that. The predictability allows the listener to anticipate and synch up, something one simply requires to express emotion through movement. Express movement well enough and it is an art form in itself. Dance. It also works in the opposite direction and can be very relaxing in a primal sense.
The dynamic backbone of hip hop is the breakbeat. These were appropriated in the early days from the breaks of Jazz pieces as well as Funk, Soul and even in rare instances Disco. Set on these were the spoken word elements. As popularity grew and hip hop itself became an influence the breakbeats found their way into many other genres. The US3 song Cantaloop is such an example. Sped up it fed House, sped up further Trance and slowed back down again at half speed Drum and Bass, slowed again chill and electronica. Music IB and myself enjoy depending on occasion.
This borrowing has been going on since the beginning of music. One might even argue that it is the spirit of music itself. Just google popular songs based on classical music and you might be surprised at the breadth of this. "All by Myself" is certainly not lonely on that list. LOL
Conversely when speaking with a good friend who is first violin here and a Juilliard alum, I asked why classical music is NOT popular today. One of the reasons he cited was the lack of predictability, specifically the lack of "hooks" outside of the theme/rondo/Sonata which recur by definition but are not pervasive. Much need be experienced and internalized before the composition as a whole makes sense and remains entertaining throughout. In simple terms no instant gratification for first time listeners. You gotta wait for it. Blues and Jazz like Hip Hop and Electronica which it spawned, became popular for the very reasons many here are trashing the younger art forms.
Socially it is a generational issue. The kids don't think their folks are cool. They realize this typically when they grow out of the music of their youth themselves and the cycle continues. The cool parents appreciate their kid's music because they can identify what was borrowed from theirs. There is a CONNECTION. Yes I am a cool Dad. Music is such a big part of our household. Sometimes after dinner we take turns streaming our recent finds to the dining room boombox.
What I appreciate about hip hop and it's derivatives is that it is a living genre, accessible to all, with spontaneous outbreaks in every city in the world going on right now, as we speak. It is one of the soundtracks of our times, THIS time we are living in, now;
a living breathing reflection of local contemporary culture, circumstances and attitude.
the US is engaged in culture wars more extreme than most other places in the world and some of the posts in this thread have exhibited that hostility.....which is kind of funny to outsiders since white America, with the exception of the new York post punk scene of the 80's, white America has done little of musical significance or merit since the doors. Everything that America has given the world musically has come from the black community, from gospel to blues and boogie through jazz to hip hop to house music has emerged from and chronicled the struggles of the black community
Admittedly music I like under the genre hip hop has a more European flavour, with reflective poetic lyrics and better all round musical cohesion than the style has been described, maligned and dismissed.. But this is down to US local contempory experience creating the circumstances where what arises is an aggressive style that makes uncompromising demands for a marginalised section of the community be heard, on their terms
a living breathing reflection of local contemporary culture, circumstances and attitude.
the US is engaged in culture wars more extreme than most other places in the world and some of the posts in this thread have exhibited that hostility.....which is kind of funny to outsiders since white America, with the exception of the new York post punk scene of the 80's, white America has done little of musical significance or merit since the doors. Everything that America has given the world musically has come from the black community, from gospel to blues and boogie through jazz to hip hop to house music has emerged from and chronicled the struggles of the black community
Admittedly music I like under the genre hip hop has a more European flavour, with reflective poetic lyrics and better all round musical cohesion than the style has been described, maligned and dismissed.. But this is down to US local contempory experience creating the circumstances where what arises is an aggressive style that makes uncompromising demands for a marginalised section of the community be heard, on their terms
