Horn based system from southern coast of Turkey

kodomo

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I saw that! That's great. How did that come about?
They contacted me on facebook. I think they have seen the system over a horn group over there and asked to do it and I said ok. Not a lot to tell about it :)
 
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They contacted me on facebook. I think they have seen the system over a horn group over there and asked to do it and I said ok. Not a lot to tell about it :)
I love your System and room.
One of my absolute favorites :cool:
But unfortunately in that "Report" are quite a few misspellings and typos.
That's a pity and doesn't do justice to your wonderful System :rolleyes:
 
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The cabinets have sliding doors with the absorption material on them, so if I change the position of the speakers or my listening spot they can be adjusted accordingly.

The cabinets still have some space @tima but, behind those sliding doors are also filled! Two of them are filled with records and two of them are filled with cd's which I can rip in the coming years and have more places for more records :)
 

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I love the system and room too - congrats Sami.
 

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SRA Scuttle mk3.1 has arrived!
 
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here are some photos :)
 

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Nice Sami! Got the Olof playing too.

Didn’t realise you had the Stabi M TT too - always liked that deck.

Best.
 
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Yes, love the Stabi M, 4 point combo. I am very happy with my system and now I am only looking forward to getting an Emia balanced silver autoformer remote.

I always love to try and listen to different cartridges and can not stop myself from getting them so a more versatile phono pre is under my radar too.

The digital stays as is, it is compact and does everything I need in a more than agreeable sound quality. We can play blurays, dvds, sacds, movies and all kind of digital audio files from external hard disks as well as watch netflix, youtube without any computers and from a single remote. Rather than spending a lot more on digital to cover all these and sound a little better I would get more records :)
 
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Congrats on the new rack! The although the name is silly, scuttle: sink (one's own ship) deliberately by holing it or opening its seacocks to let water in), the SRA Scuttle is a very beautiful and sturdy rack.

And....it looks great!
 

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Another bad phone photo taken at night but it is new and with new icON preamp
 

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Is it optical illusion that your speakers are toe-in quite a lot. The presentation cannot be so natural. You need to toe out more. :p

Of course Iam joking and teasing PeterA.
 

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@andromedaaudio
Sorry but i m highly skeptical of your graph to say it gently , because its not possible to have a flat line in room response measurement in the 20 hz - 400 hz region with a passive X crossover .

No manufacturer can achieve that not Magico not YG not Wilson not Dynaudio .......

Brg HJ

Thank you for your skepticism. You can see in this thread this was not my initial spl response and if you like to see I have worse measurements further years back. Nothing happens in one day, it took me years, different bass solutions, tearing down walls, different listening positions to get these right.

First of all, 400hz is too high for your claim. If you say below 100hz, 160hz or even 200hz I would understand where you are coming from as that will fall below (most probably) to the rooms schroeder frequency that they are taking the measurements from and room modes will be dominant in their tests. However, not all the rooms are the same. If one has a correctly treated the room, gets the right position for the speakers and the measurement (listener location) it is possible to achieve a flatter response. I also attach my rt60 graph for you, so you can see that for the correlation.

For your information, servo based open baffle bass system actually can provide quite linear response if positioned well enough. Further than that, having actual bass traps that have been built upon measurements and corrected again and again is also helpful. My whole front wall except for the living moss garden is a bass trap covered by binary diffusors. It also turns corners and continues to side walls for 1.6 meters. This wall has depth and varying density of mineral wool. It not only covers tri-corners, and complete front wall top and bottom boundaries that meet the floor and the ceiling but continues on the sides for those 1.6 meters as well. To continue on bass trapping, you can see the side wall have 6 primacoustic australis bass traps (more of a help between 80-160hz) on side wall and ceiling boundaries. Further than that, to keep the decay time linear, you can see there are twelve 60x60 broadband absorbers on the sides. Then there are the diffusers on in between the record shelves and the primacoustic bass traps which are not just diffusers but also absorbers. So there is quite a lot of varying absorption built on firstly on room size, my target decay time and then corrected through measurements.
 

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Is it optical illusion that your speakers are toe-in quite a lot. The presentation cannot be so natural. You need to toe out more. :p

Of course Iam joking and teasing PeterA.
Yes, although there is toe in, this looks a little weird. I will take a better photo today and share it here :)
 

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I think this is a slightly better and less lens distorted photo
 

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Is it optical illusion that your speakers are toe-in quite a lot. The presentation cannot be so natural. You need to toe out more. :p

Of course Iam joking and teasing PeterA.

Tango my friend, you know the only way to tell whether or not a system sounds natural is to first ask if it has Ching Cheng power cords and then to record it on an iPhone and share it on WBF.
 

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Nice system / room
Well if you have achieved that kudos to you , the final proof would be in listening off course .
Usually a slighty elevated bass + 3 d b compared to the mid / highs will sound the most natural in my expirience .

Brg HJ
 
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Nice system / room
Well if you have achieved that kudos to you , the final proof would be in listening off course .
Usually a slighty elevated bass + 3 d b compared to the mid / highs will sound the most natural in my expirience .

Brg HJ
This is what I have found out too. I now enjoy something in between a harman and a toole target response. The flat response is for anechoic rooms, if you have a flat response at anechoic room, in a good listening room you will have a (toole target response) nice gradual boost at bass. You just need to be careful how long it hangs and how it interacts with the room. Decay is as important as spl.

Just to clear things, my system is passive but very adjustable. I have the bass active, so up to 120hz I can boost bass on their own amps and correct with their on board peq. My midbass (100hz-500hz) is fixed but my midrange can be attenuated with fostex r100t autoformers, upper midrange and tweeters can be attenuated through changing r1 and r2 on my crossovers and they are on the backside on binding posts, so it is very easy to reach and change. This means I can adjust my levels in 4 bands just the midbass fixed.

For further info, my crossovers are impedance flattened, they are done in a way to correct the response of my compression drivers and midbass woofer in their respective horns. The crossovers has been done by two doctors of electronics who also build horns and consult big names. I attach a photo of on sides crossovers here for your info (and for people who like vacuum bypass caps). The top right one was for TAD's when I had them as a bass solution in BR boxes, so those are not in service anymore.
 

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Tango my friend, you know the only way to tell whether or not a system sounds natural is to first ask if it has Ching Cheng power cords and then to record it on an iPhone and share it on WBF.
Here is an iphone video for @Tango I know he likes this piano record :)

 

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