Congratulations Steve, looks exiting !
If one purchases the Horizon 360 and Taiko Olympus with the internal HDMI, then what is added in sound quality by getting the Olympus I/O?
Yes. Please see: https://www.whatsbestforum.com/thre...-dcs-vivaldi-apex-listening-comparison.34947/Has anyone compared the Horizon to the top DACs from Wadax, DCS, and MSB in PCM playback? I wonder what do you gain and what do you lose in the comparisons..
The short answer is : everyone.Has anyone compared the Horizon to the top DACs from Wadax, DCS, and MSB in PCM playback? I wonder what do you gain and what do you lose in the comparisons..
If this is any help; I previously had or demoed several top tier DACS, all Solid State. I've been involved in audio since Carvers Phase Linear Days/Empire TT, Revox Reel to Reel. After joining WBF (keep in mind I never had a tube component in my life) I started reading about Lampizator/Horizon/ and now 360.Has anyone compared the Horizon to the top DACs from Wadax, DCS, and MSB in PCM playback? I wonder what do you gain and what do you lose in the comparisons..
The short answer is : everyone.
Yes, every of our 200 Horizon owners - before buying from a relatively small and unknown company like Lampizator - tries to test it against the top peers and every single sale meant we won that contest. Usually at least three top DACS are involved. Usually MSB, DCS, Aries, Kondo, Wadax and Playback Design.
If that hives you a hint.
yes i have and i settled with the horizon. listened to the top wadax about 4-5 times in different setups , the top msb also 3-4 times . dcs not the newest one but certainly all the previous models. There is a significant difference in tube dacs to solid state dacs . Once you have heard and appreciate a tube dac - it is hard going back . Lukasz has the only tube dac here that allows the use of so many esoteric tubes out there. AC has a nice sound but it uses cheap components - it also doesnt let you customise the sound to your liking with tube rolling as well. If you are not familiar with tubes - having a tube dac can be overwhelming but once you are there and you are immersed in it ...there is no going back here .Has anyone compared the Horizon to the top DACs from Wadax, DCS, and MSB in PCM playback? I wonder what do you gain and what do you lose in the comparisons..
View attachment 136331what is this cable steve? looks like an ?xlr cable? but arnt you using masterbuilt?
@plasmod3, could you go into more detail as to what cheap components AC uses in their dacs relative to Lampi? (not trying to provoke an argument, but would be interested to know what you’re referring to, thanks)yes i have and i settled with the horizon. listened to the top wadax about 4-5 times in different setups , the top msb also 3-4 times . dcs not the newest one but certainly all the previous models. There is a significant difference in tube dacs to solid state dacs . Once you have heard and appreciate a tube dac - it is hard going back . Lukasz has the only tube dac here that allows the use of so many esoteric tubes out there. AC has a nice sound but it uses cheap components - it also doesnt let you customise the sound to your liking with tube rolling as well. If you are not familiar with tubes - having a tube dac can be overwhelming but once you are there and you are immersed in it ...there is no going back here .
I don’t think I see why this kind of information, as long as it’s reliable, shouldn’t be able to be on a public discussion?It would be best if this conversation was moved to PM. This is the Horizon thread and personal opinions about build quality should be kept private. Thanks.
Thanks . The feedback from all around seems overwhelmingly positive. Are there no downsides in sound vs the top solid state DACs?yes i have and i settled with the horizon. listened to the top wadax about 4-5 times in different setups , the top msb also 3-4 times . dcs not the newest one but certainly all the previous models. There is a significant difference in tube dacs to solid state dacs . Once you have heard and appreciate a tube dac - it is hard going back . Lukasz has the only tube dac here that allows the use of so many esoteric tubes out there. AC has a nice sound but it uses cheap components - it also doesnt let you customise the sound to your liking with tube rolling as well. If you are not familiar with tubes - having a tube dac can be overwhelming but once you are there and you are immersed in it ...there is no going back here .