Magico M3

Folsom

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The DAC changed a few times, MSB, Aqua, MSB. The preamp was Spectral. Everything is through an Equi=tech. MIT cables w/ Spectral, with the VAC were MT cable and something else, different times. I have no idea what the server was, something nice.

The Spectrals just were not as involving. There was nothing technically wrong with them. But the VAC 450 has a little tube magic that brings a pleasure factor into the equation. I think tube linearity helps with vocals, too. The VAC's are not annoyingly juicy, but they have a little bit. While my sensibilities tell me "it's not real!" I nonetheless enjoyed them. The CH M1 is very adjustable. The feedback is kind of a toss up because the more you crank it, the better some things sound, but not others. The bass is more natural without it, but not quiet as articulate - one example among several. But overall it is simply more harmonically rich than the Spectrals at any setting, which really pushes the experience into something more involving that keeps you selecting tunes.
 

BMCG

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The DAC changed a few times, MSB, Aqua, MSB. The preamp was Spectral. Everything is through an Equi=tech. MIT cables w/ Spectral, with the VAC were MT cable and something else, different times. I have no idea what the server was, something nice.

The Spectrals just were not as involving. There was nothing technically wrong with them. But the VAC 450 has a little tube magic that brings a pleasure factor into the equation. I think tube linearity helps with vocals, too. The VAC's are not annoyingly juicy, but they have a little bit. While my sensibilities tell me "it's not real!" I nonetheless enjoyed them. The CH M1 is very adjustable. The feedback is kind of a toss up because the more you crank it, the better some things sound, but not others. The bass is more natural without it, but not quiet as articulate - one example among several. But overall it is simply more harmonically rich than the Spectrals at any setting, which really pushes the experience into something more involving that keeps you selecting tunes.
Intriguing...am contemplating auditioning the CH M1 and Magico M3.....granted will take some time to assemble but useful input.
 
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This situation was left after we had the rest of the spectrum pretty flat. We could make it go away by adjusting variables but other more important parts of the frequency band suffered. He recommended and I agreed to stop with this room related issue and deal with it via subwoofers. I don't blame the speakers since there were multiple positions where the suck out disappeared.

Eric
New to WBF and a new Magico owner. Just discovered this thread and we have some real similarities. My room is almost exactly the same size as yours and I too have a suckout exactly where you do. My first Magicos were A3's and I used a JL e112 sub strategically placed (with help from a visit by Barry Ober, aka the Soundoctor) and had no suckout. I had the sub and A3's crossed over at 50 hz using a JL CR-1 crossover and I used an Antimode Dual Core on the sub. No room modes and no suckout BUT I couldn't get comfortable with the sound. Too much reverb I think. I sold the sub and crossover and traded in my A3's for S3 MkII's. No room mode but the suckout is back. Still, I like the sound overall better than any combination so far. If I had it to do over again I'd run the S3's full range, cross the sub over at 40 Hz and invest in some bass traps. Having said all that, I'm auditioning M3's at Magico this week. Gulp.
 

Bodhi

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New to WBF and a new Magico owner. Just discovered this thread and we have some real similarities. My room is almost exactly the same size as yours and I too have a suckout exactly where you do. My first Magicos were A3's and I used a JL e112 sub strategically placed (with help from a visit by Barry Ober, aka the Soundoctor) and had no suckout. I had the sub and A3's crossed over at 50 hz using a JL CR-1 crossover and I used an Antimode Dual Core on the sub. No room modes and no suckout BUT I couldn't get comfortable with the sound. Too much reverb I think. I sold the sub and crossover and traded in my A3's for S3 MkII's. No room mode but the suckout is back. Still, I like the sound overall better than any combination so far. If I had it to do over again I'd run the S3's full range, cross the sub over at 40 Hz and invest in some bass traps. Having said all that, I'm auditioning M3's at Magico this week. Gulp.
The M3's so some things better than the S series; the carbon cabinet has excellent self-damping & the tweeter is very good. Though if bass is important to you, I think you'd find the S5 Mk2's have an edge over the M3's in the bass (though this would depend on your room size). Adding SPods improves the bass even further. Interstingly, the S5 Mk2's have the exact same midrange driver as the M3 (Part No: MAG6004RTC).
 
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I have S3 MkII's, not S5's. I would have thought the bass would be pretty equal between the M3's and S3's. Does the S3 also have the same midrange driver?
 

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