Magico M7 2023
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He did use test tones unless i read thru incorrectly , he used both tones and recordings he is familiar with , looking for his reference sound ..!
A TT has too many variables to do this , he would have to have a familiar fixed setup , its not , the Digital is ..
For me recording is a big part of source, and so no, i don’t think digital recording are of adequate sonic quality. I understand the forum logic of equating 100k digital similar in quality to expensive analog. I just don’t see how a system with a 450k turntable can have similar digital sonic quality, unless the system or vinyl recordings are heavily compromised
I agree if you are auditioning components. I used vinyl for my speaker set up but understand why Magico would use digital for a five hour speaker install.
I get your point, in that the best source (you believe it's always analog) should be used to dial in speakers, and that certainly makes sense to me.
It’s a system set up, not a TT set up or speaker set up. If you were visiting someone who has a 450k TT you should assume it is optimised. And do your speaker set up. There is no point visiting him before the TT set up has been optimised.
Burning all tracks onto same CD reminds me of what I did before I learned analog recordings existed
in what way is it not a speaker set up? is he checking the power grid? checking gear resonance treatment? adding wall treatment?
no. he is just adjusting the speaker set-up. system set-up is a different beast.
give it a rest. this is a stranger coming in who has no familiarity with the media or the gear. using some one else's reference vinyl and turntable to tune a system would not be the tool of choice.
if TLi was doing the adjusting maybe your point might be valid to have him use his vinyl, but not a stranger to his system.
you now bring your very thoroughly vetted pressings with you for your reference. and you have seriously deep knowledge about how most turntables and electronics should sound. that is a completely different situation. who can do it your way? only you.
do you know of any traveling set up guy who uses vinyl exclusively across a broad spectrum of systems?
If someone is not into vetted recordings, there is no point having expensive analog gear. Might as well spend all that money on streaming, and then use streaming for set up like sbnx does.
If a person with good analog gear has a guy traveling in for 5 hours adjust his speaker on CD (because he had only 5 hours or whatever), then the speakers have not been optimally set up so there is no reason for all the congratulations, unless this is a feel good only forum.
I have given it a rest. It is time people on this forum who have analog bling moved on to understanding what analog is capable of.
People reading this thread who understand analog would get the irony of having a speaker set up by CD - not there that cannot be overlaps
proper speaker or system set-up ideally is a long term proposition which can (and does for TLi) include high level analog. i think most here would likely agree with that.
what happened with TLi's room and M7's is only a set-up boost related to longer term efforts he is doing. it's not the end point. very likely TLi will build on what he has observed and appreciated from this visit. i'm sure he learned stuff. so this step with CD reference is not limiting anything.
this commitment by Magico to customer satisfaction, and TLi's positive reaction, are things to be celebrated. how can they not be? but it's not game over.
Sterling Trayle did a great job setting up analog and Stenheim CH here in London. Over a couple of days
do you know whether he exclusively used analog, or also used CD/digital references? did he bring his own vinyl pressings?
Will confirm today. I do know he also optimised the analog set up in the process.
So someone who use both analog and digital should change the speaker placement and/or listening position when they listen to one or the other? This is ridiculous.
Which wasn’t all that long ago
Spending time in your own room as an absolute number might be higher but is still zero compared to riding learning curves of people who collectively have 40,000 years of experience
The answer is both. For speaker set up he primarily uses digital files and cds that he brings with him…he then fine tunes using your own sources.
Which makes sense to me. He uses digital for speed of set up and then fine tunes with better source.
It makes commercial sense to me to limit yourself to the pressings quality of your client.
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Yup , Altho not a Universal Guarantee , Quality over quantity .
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