This might be the problem, what was recorded on the Iphone, should be listened on the Iphone. Also, when listening on YT, compression levels vary constantly, you never know what it is you are hearing. Which can explain the different reactions to the same video.
The M9s do NOT have an active bass driven system. Although they do have their own outboard dedicated amplifiers. Two channels for the top modules and two channels of amplification required for the bottom modules. All four channels come out of the MXO crossover.
The fact that the MXO crossover handles separation between the mid-bass and the bass section of the M9s I believe will prove to be a real factor in the performance of the M9s. I can't wait to get my hands on them. AND with my amplification.
The birds on the recording are kind of funny. I can see how people like them or dislike them but to me they sound far from convincing. I think they are distracting from the sound of the strings.
To me the sound is homogenized. It’s flat and sterile. Very pleasant sounding music but the presentation is lifeless.
It’s not the case that all videos suck. There are some good sounding videos posted by people. I don’t think much can be gleamed about these particular speakers in this context but I appreciate that the video was posted and shared. It is clearly meant to be a showcase system to give pleasure to the owner.
To me the sound is homogenized. It’s flat and sterile. Very pleasant sounding music but the presentation is lifeless.
It’s not the case that all videos suck. There are some good sounding videos posted by people. I don’t think much can be gleamed about these particular speakers in this context but I appreciate that the video was posted and shared. It is clearly meant to be a showcase system to give pleasure to the owner.
What's the meaning of the phrase 'For the birds'?
Trivial; worthless; only of interest to gullible people.
What trade off when one is limited to expensive very high powered amplifiers that aren’t natural or musical sounding? You’re stuck with that.
As I mentioned clearly I wasn’t commenting on the M9s but the cause of the problems heard that has nothing to do with speakers.
94db is just one parameter and only a number, how that measurement was made matters and you need more information on how the speaker behaves under load to make any conclusion on the speaker’s real efficiency.
david
A nominal sensitivity spec can be of limited meaning. My two-way monitors of 92 dB sensitivity (supplemented by active subs) can easily and very dynamically be driven by my old 15W/ch parallel push-pull triode monoblocks. My current tube amp is 100 W/ch. Overkill, like I wanted.
Yet reasonably efficient two-way monitors are easy. Large multi-way cone speakers are always harder to drive.
No thats not my expirience .
2 ways are the hardest .
Its almost impossible to design a high eff easy to drive 2 way speaker
I can see where david is coming from .
But alon wolf has made different choices
Nonsense. My 15 W/ch amps could even drive my old Ensemble Reference monitors of just 90 dB sensitivity to great dynamics with ease.
Two-way monitors don't usually have complex crossovers, for one thing. I bet the crossovers in the M9 are complex high-order ones.
You are entitled to your opinion same as everyone
!Still waiting for the tradeoffs you mention, what do you get in return for dead sounding electronics please elaborate?
david
I have looked it up and according to stereophile it has a 5 inch woofer and a soft dome .
Al , seriously such a design is very limited
Its hardly capable of doing any damage
Thats also not the case cannata look at the wilsons ( X 1 , X2 ) for example
But believe me alon wolf knows exactly how to make a easy to drive high eff speaker .
Its just that he has different design ideas/ priorities
Of course it's a limited design, but that doesn't take away my point.
My current monitors have an 8.25 inch mid-woofer and a beryllium tweeter. Direct coupling of mid-woofer to amp, without crossover.
All things equal, I believe I am correct (not sure what you mean by the Wilson example).
Sure, that's why I have active subwoofers.
But then, I think all speakers need subwoofers. The generic term "full-range" speaker for any multi-way floor stander is a pathetic joke. Very few speakers are full-range.
Put on some deep bass electronica, and you'll know right away.
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