Modern speakers vs Vintage speakers

If you want to alter I think some carpet and give your wife budget to decorate in a homey style will do sir. Natural charisma is what you have for the sound in your place. Tampon-free sir.
Tampon free?
 
TJ mesh, full music, JJ, are not that good. Acme is better than them but KR and elrog are better than acme. Also better than EML mesh and Takatsuki. Elrog is the best 300b of the new ones, most transparent to the recordings and does not force a stage or color the midrange.
Your are talking about amps here, right?
Not DACs?
 
TJ mesh, full music, JJ, are not that good. Acme is better than them but KR and elrog are better than acme. Also better than EML mesh and Takatsuki. Elrog is the best 300b of the new ones, most transparent to the recordings and does not force a stage or color the midrange.
Sure but we are talking about putting 4 in a Cayin amp...
 
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I would rather spend the money on a driver tube, because there is more to get sound quality
 
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I took a look at the amplifier, good construction, no problems expected.
Is that right outside sit left and right Ecc82 tubes in the middle Ecc83?
If it is right.
let's kick the 300B right up the ass. Buy a pair of 12bh7a tubes from RCA or General Electric and replace the Ecc82 tubes
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I took a look at the amplifier, good construction, no problems expected.
Is that right outside sit left and right Ecc82 tubes in the middle Ecc83?
If it is right.
let's kick the 300B right up the ass. Buy a pair of 12bh7a tubes from RCA or General Electric and replace the Ecc82 tubes
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Is that a drop in replacement?
 
Is that a drop in replacement?
12bh7a has a lower impedance, a steeper gain will control the 300b better. You can only find out if it sounds better by trying it out. I haven't found a circuit diagram, I don't know any operating points of the tubes, otherwise it could calculate.
 
12bh7a has a lower impedance, a steeper gain will control the 300b better. You can only find out if it sounds better by trying it out. I haven't found a circuit diagram, I don't know any operating points of the tubes, otherwise it could calculate.
HI Stephan

I ordered quad TUNG SOL USA JTL 5814 from Ebay.

Do you know whether they are completely compatible with ECC82?

thanks

Thomas
 
No problem . Is the us millitary version of a 12AU7/ECC82
 
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No problem . Is the us millitary version of a 12AU7/ECC82
My problem is that I tend to buy too many Nos tubes like collection of vintage wines.

I had spent 30k$ on buying tubes last 3 years.

On my last visit to Korea, I got pair of WE 300B made in 50's at 5500$.


I have more than 100 pairs of 6sn7 and variants like 6f8g..
 
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It took my some of my precious lifetime ;) to go through this thread, reading most of the comments and looking at some very impressive systems and rooms.

For myself, as limited by space of my listening room, I had to decide on much smaller speakers as shown mostly on this thread but OK, I managed in some way.
I was lucky to find these ones.

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They look like an Altec14 but they are Dynamikks 12, produced by Ulf Moning in a small village near Heidelberg/Germany.

A speaker, looking like a vintage Altec14 but using modern technologies and materials. In my opinion, a good combination between vintage concept and modern materials.
I lack the knowledge to restore original Altecs (also you will not get them easily in Germany), also searching for original spare parts, etc.
For me, they sound good, no colorations by the horn and yes, they are fast. Very fast. You know how a snare drum has to sound, you know what I mean.

Volker
P.S. sorry for my poor english. I do as best as I can do.
 
It took my some of my precious lifetime ;) to go through this thread, reading most of the comments and looking at some very impressive systems and rooms.

For myself, as limited by space of my listening room, I had to decide on much smaller speakers as shown mostly on this thread but OK, I managed in some way.
I was lucky to find these ones.

View attachment 84022
They look like an Altec14 but they are Dynamikks 12, produced by Ulf Moning in a small village near Heidelberg/Germany.

A speaker, looking like a vintage Altec14 but using modern technologies and materials. In my opinion, a good combination between vintage concept and modern materials.
I lack the knowledge to restore original Altecs (also you will not get them easily in Germany), also searching for original spare parts, etc.
For me, they sound good, no colorations by the horn and yes, they are fast. Very fast. You know how a snare drum has to sound, you know what I mean.

Volker
P.S. sorry for my poor english. I do as best as I can do.
Very nice.they do look like altecs
 
12bh7a has a lower impedance, a steeper gain will control the 300b better. You can only find out if it sounds better by trying it out. I haven't found a circuit diagram, I don't know any operating points of the tubes, otherwise it could calculate.
Agree the 12BH7a is superb pairing with my Quad Takatsuki 300b's-elevated them to the next Millennium :p

Wise words from Das' I use matched CV5042 Brimar's--they sit aside the CV4003 Mullard--will scout for the brands mentioned above--grateful Das";)

BruceD
 
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Agree the 12BH7a is superb pairing with my Quad Takatsuki 300b's-elevated them to the next Millennium :p

Wise words from Das' I use matched CV5042 Brimar's--they sit aside the CV4003 Mullard--will scout for the brands mentioned above--grateful Das";)

BruceD
nice tubes, most of the mullards are from phillips in heerlen netherlands. the real ones from Blackburn are as rare as winning the lottery
 
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nice tubes, most of the mullards are from phillips in heerlen netherlands. the real ones from Blackburn are as rare as winning the lottery
Good Insight and Info Stephan---

Yes I bought them all many moons ago in the UK--the Mullard has never really given up its parentage--the labelling states

Box-Valve Electronic CV4003KQDD/K10CV 5960-99-000. The Tube itself CV4003 KQDD/K 84-44 631 R4E2

The Brimars are more recent models I think, they came with plain white Boxes.

BruceD
 
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Good Insight and Info Stephan---

Yes I bought them all many moons ago in the UK--the Mullard has never really given up its parentage--the labelling states

Box-Valve Electronic CV4003KQDD/K10CV 5960-99-000. The Tube itself CV4003 KQDD/K 84-44 631 R4E2

The Brimars are more recent models I think, they came with plain white Boxes.

BruceD
the legendary blackburn ecc83 saw the light of day in Blackburn in 1961, and in the first two years of production the British were very proud of their tubes. they have labeled their tubes with this label. From the third year of production, the demand was very high. Due to the close relationship with Philips, production was outsourced to meet demand.
Unfortunately, I only have one ecc82 of the type. serves as an example of what they look like.
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from then on it becomes very opaque to recognize originals, because of the close relationship to Philips who later bought Mullard. the last tube produced in Blackburn was E 813CC. A simpler ecc 83 from the construction.
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I'm trying to identify your tubes, where your tubes come from. But I can't promise anything, I have to find the book in my chaos first.;)
 
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It took my some of my precious lifetime ;) to go through this thread, reading most of the comments and looking at some very impressive systems and rooms.

For myself, as limited by space of my listening room, I had to decide on much smaller speakers as shown mostly on this thread but OK, I managed in some way.
I was lucky to find these ones.

View attachment 84022
They look like an Altec14 but they are Dynamikks 12, produced by Ulf Moning in a small village near Heidelberg/Germany.

A speaker, looking like a vintage Altec14 but using modern technologies and materials. In my opinion, a good combination between vintage concept and modern materials.
I lack the knowledge to restore original Altecs (also you will not get them easily in Germany), also searching for original spare parts, etc.
For me, they sound good, no colorations by the horn and yes, they are fast. Very fast. You know how a snare drum has to sound, you know what I mean.

Volker
P.S. sorry for my poor english. I do as best as I can do.
Greetings from Northern Germany, I like your speakers more visually than the monitor series. You have wonderful Mcintosh devices. It's a shame that macintosh no longer builds something like that
 
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Thank you. I will pass your compliment to the Mcs :D.
Times are changing and McIntosh fabricate what the customer is willing to buy, but sometimes it means "back to the roots" (see re-issue of the C22 / MC75) ;).

Volker
 
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