Actually the recordings with an IPhone are clearly good enough to easily tell relative differences between setups but when levels are different that can misconstrued as the louder is better. A different Spectral content is interesting but realize that he had a different cartridge on each table so one might expect there to be some differences.
It is not what it is written in Peter text- I quote :
"I transferred that same SME 3012R tonearm, phono cable, and the vdH Colibri Elite cartridge that I used in that first video to the American Sound turntable, and made a new video this afternoon. Here is a direct comparison of the two turntables with the arm going through the same Lamm LP2.1 Deluxe phono input. The only variable, other that the two turntables, is the location and support for the two turntables. It is a pretty direct comparison. "
Actually the recordings with an IPhone are clearly good enough to easily tell relative differences between setups but when levels are different that can misconstrued as the louder is better. A different Spectral content is interesting but realize that he had a different cartridge on each table so one might expect there to be some differences.
It depends which videos you’re talking about. In the St James Infirmary videos comparing the Micro Seiki to the American sound, I simply transferred the same arm and cartridge from one turntable to the next.
If the two videos sound different, wouldn’t one expect the spectrul analysis to be slightly different? The two turntables certainly sound different in the room listening live.
Mr AJ vdH Just wrote me saying he completed my third and final Colibri Grand Cru Elite. He listened to the cartridge and recommended a specific tracking force. He is still clearly the builder of these cartridges and he listens to them before sending them off to clients. I think he does everything by ear. I know he waits a few days after traveling to make sure his hands are very steady for this delicate work.
I made a couple of videos comparing the Master Signature and Grand Cru with the new Elite model. These simple YouTube videos were sufficient to demonstrate the differences.
It is not what it is written in Peter text- I quote :
"I transferred that same SME 3012R tonearm, phono cable, and the vdH Colibri Elite cartridge that I used in that first video to the American Sound turntable, and made a new video this afternoon. Here is a direct comparison of the two turntables with the arm going through the same Lamm LP2.1 Deluxe phono input. The only variable, other that the two turntables, is the location and support for the two turntables. It is a pretty direct comparison. "
Sorry missed that part…it was the first comparison when he did one a long time before that I was commenting on (he had a XPP on the MS at that time I believe he mentioned).
Actually the recordings with an IPhone are clearly good enough to easily tell relative differences between setups but when levels are different that can misconstrued as the louder is better. A different Spectral content is interesting but realize that he had a different cartridge on each table so one might expect there to be some differences.
I thought the entire tonearm (with cartridge) was moved from one table to the other? But if the carts being used are different, then all bets are off in terms of evaluation of the tables from the vids. Level.matching is indeed important though... Compensating on the playback side isn't the same.
Edit: I see the cart question was subsequently addressed...
Why bother to recapitulate the same subject again and again? We know you don’t understand how to use video - you have told us repeatedly for at least 2 years.
Why bother to recapitulate the same subject again and again? We know you don’t understand how to use video - you have told us repeatedly for at least 2 years.
Sure, I understand what you mean but then how can you argue against a higher resolution tool? Who doesn't want an analytical instrument that can measure with more precision, accuracy and sensitivity? I spent a good part of my career design analytical instruments to do better science to understand things on levels we couldn't before. So, it is baffling to me when you try to argue that using higher resolution recording gear would not bring more benefit in the analysis of recordings where changes have been made to a system. Your argument doesn't hold up to even mild scrutiny.
Why bother to recapitulate the same subject again and again? We know you don’t understand how to use video - you have told us repeatedly for at least 2 years.
Please explain how you control the issues I mentioned in delivery chain and people's systems that they listen through, no less the human factor itself.
david
I think his point is, that if we are looking at it to gauge difference, and know that this is a rough guidance, enough to stoke curiosity or increase understanding With comments from the person in the room, then, given that we are aware this is not a replacement for actual listening, better tools are not going to bridge that gap. They will be do same service of giving a rough guidance etc
Btw there is a difference between a better tool that gives a realistic picture vs a tool that processes or takes away from listener in the seat, and makes video sound better than others because of the tool not the system
Please explain how you control the issues I mentioned in delivery chain and people's systems that they listen through, no less the human factor itself.
david
Volume level between changes in a given system is a basic one…and one of most abused. A simple app on a smart phone will let you know if you have a significant change there. Comparing between systems can only really be done if the recording is made by the same gear and (again) with levels controlled. Hear an IPhone makes sense because almost everyone has one.
But if you want to give people the clearest picture of your system’s overall quality and you want people to best hear relative changes in your system and they have to listen remotely, then recording with high quality gear makes a lot of sense.
Volume level between changes in a given system is a basic one…and one of most abused. A simple app on a smart phone will let you know if you have a significant change there. Comparing between systems can only really be done if the recording is made by the same gear and (again) with levels controlled. Hear an IPhone makes sense because almost everyone has one.
But if you want to give people the clearest picture of your system’s overall quality and you want people to best hear relative changes in your system and they have to listen remotely, then recording with high quality gear makes a lot of sense.
Volume level between changes in a given system is a basic one…and one of most abused. A simple app on a smart phone will let you know if you have a significant change there. Comparing between systems can only really be done if the recording is made by the same gear and (again) with levels controlled. Hear an IPhone makes sense because almost everyone has one.
Adjusting levels wasn't an argument, straight forward to do and most people do it naturally but that's a different thing than matching levels among videos. Can also be done but not particularly helpful.
But if you want to give people the clearest picture of your system’s overall quality and you want people to best hear relative changes in your system and they have to listen remotely, then recording with high quality gear makes a lot of sense.
