Romney looked over rehearsed to me while Obama looked lost after the initial salvo. Like Amir said, he wasn't prepared for the attack that came from left field.
Presidential Debate: The Heck Happened???
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I agree with most of that, Amir, but not with the specificity. Had Romney been specific, his positions would have fallen apart. He was deliberately non-specific.
Tim
Hello,
as a german, I have a possibly silly question.
Does these debates have really so much influences on the election?
In our news we were told that Obama lost some ground immediately after this debate.
Its hard to believe for me.
I look more to the past what the individual candidate has done "for me".
BR
Andreas
as a german, I have a possibly silly question.
Does these debates have really so much influences on the election?
In our news we were told that Obama lost some ground immediately after this debate.
Its hard to believe for me.
I look more to the past what the individual candidate has done "for me".
BR
Andreas
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Hi Andreas
I posted this earlier in the thread
Debates don’t move polls. Debate winners do
Romney doesn't look like an enormously skilled debating opponent. Obama may be pulling his punches to bring out the attack dog, then bonking Romney. The last debate may be the only one that matters in that regard.
The last debate was on domestic policy/the economy. That was the debate that matters most to the electorate and the one Romney handily won...Obama won't look good in the foreign policy debate either as evidenced by the peaceful mideast. Getting Bin Laden will be his only significant foreign policy accomplishment that he can tout.
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you had me for a brief moment
That's so well done. I was watching President Obama going through those exact moments, catching him writing and such. So while a funny note, probably pretty close to reality.
In the next life, I like to have creative talent like this!
Sorry Tom, even with all our political system flaws and partisanship, our system is still the best. Europe's more socialist way of governing is not sustainable from a financial standpoint and ecourages more generations of mediocrity and gov't dependence. I was raised with fear of failure...not pleasant at times but it did make me successful and self sustaining.This election here is all about that choice if you really think about it....
Is that so
From where I am sitting it looks as if you guys are digging yourselves deeper into a financial black hole - unable to cut spending or raise taxes thanks to the gridlock in your Congress. In July last year you were days away from default, thanks to brinksmanship by some of the nutcases you have in Congress. This is how a tinpot third world country or some European basket case behaves, not the foremost and most important economy in the world. What's more - you are unable or unwilling to do what is sensible and restrict gun ownership, implement universal health care, subsidize medications for the vulnerable, and do something about climate change. A Young Earth Creationist who thinks that Evolution and the Big Bang theory are straight from the gates of hell serves on the House Science Committee. Once upon a time I might have admired the American system when both sides of politics were rational and pragmatic. Now it seems as if one of your parties has just gone plain nuts and it disturbs me that there might actually be Republican voters on WBF.
I think i'll take Australia any day.
Gun ownership restrictions ? The only one's who would be restricted are lawful responsible gun owners...not the criminals that prey upon society who will have guns anyway. It's that simple. American's ( and all people for that matter) have the right to defend themselves and are protected by the law accordingly. You break into my house, I can shoot you no questions asked. Moral of the story...don't break into houses. Why have restrictive laws to complicate things and put criminals at an advantage ?
Christian, I think a debate on gun ownership is beyond the scope of this thread. I only cited it as an example. Though mind you, the fact that you think it is a good idea to shoot people for burglary tells me a lot about you and it is very tempting to reply!
Burglary ? In the US you would be surprised how many home invasions happen and burglary is the dessert. Rape and murder are the appetizer and entree. Yup, I won't take the time to ask the invader if he is there for my property only. Call me a wild and crazy guy. I agree, this discussion should end. Cheers !
Not exactly. Just look at the number of Executive Orders that have been issued by our current President versus any other President in our history. Executive Orders give the ability of the sitting President to do whatever he wants and bypass the desires of Congress or the wishes of the American People.
I am old enough not only to remember but to have attended one of his "speeches". He was hilarious. And when the heckler in the back row of the audience yellled "I got the best view of you", he promptly yelled back..."that works two ways Hamburger"I don't know who "won" the debate but I noticed a couple of things: When Romney was speaking and they showed split screen, Obama looked disinterested, bored, thinking about his rebuttal; nodding (sideways) to show disagreement or frowning. All of which, in my opinion, come across as negative. I was impressed, however, that Obama has improved DRAMATICALLY as a speaker when not using the teleprompters.
I won't watch again as it is very difficult for me to watch someone smile and tell what are clearly boldface lies at the same time. (but then again, isn't that the definition of a politician?)
I think I'm going to vote for Pat Paulson (for those of you old enough to remember who he was
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