Ron’s New System

[bonzo75]

is this analog or digital ?

lol. LP of a recording that was originally released on CD

 

[Ron Resnick]

How about the recordings same recorder and microphone?

iPhone, internal mic

Same recording position?

yes

Room acoustics are certainly different.

not really; plus/minus the absorption panels on the front wall

 

[Ron Resnick]

LP of a recording that was originally released on CD

Huh? That Musica Nuda track is a digital recording?

Or are you saying the CD just happened to be released before the vinyl and the CD is AAD?

 

[bonzo75]

Huh? That Musica Nuda track is a digital recording?

Or are you saying the CD just happened to be released before the vinyl and the CD is AAD?

It was first released in 2004 on CD. Fone later did the LP, they say pure analog one stage cutting process, don’t know what their source is.

 

[Ron Resnick]

It was first released in 2004 on CD. Fone later did the LP, they say pure analog one stage cutting process, don’t know what their source is.

With David Karmeli being such a fan of that album that he gives it to his turntable buyers I would be surprised if it is a digital recording.

 

[bonzo75]

With David Karmeli being such a fan of that album that he gives it to his turntable buyers I would be surprised if it is a digital recording.

I wouldn’t rate that LP nor music anyway for listening nor for evaluation.

 

[Ron Resnick]

I wouldn’t rate that LP nor music anyway for listening nor for evaluation.

I did not suggest that you are a fan of it.

 

[John T]

I did not suggest that you are a fan of it.

I am a fan of it!

 

[bonzo75]

I did not suggest that you are a fan of it.

One does not have to be a fan to realise it serves no purpose in audio evaluation

 

[PeterA]

iPhone, internal mic


yes



not really; plus/minus the absorption panels on the front wall

Absorption panels and the presence of those unused Pendragons in the Clarisys video. These things can make a difference, but who knows unless you’re there listening? The room acoustics sound very different to me on the videos.

Do you have a preference Ron when listening in the room from the listening seat ?

 

[PeterA]

With David Karmeli being such a fan of that album that he gives it to his turntable buyers I would be surprised if it is a digital recording.

Be surprised then. David likes some Digital and I’ve heard very good Digital at his house. He happens to like the music on this recording, as did Vladimir Lamm. There’s lots of great music made after the advent of digital record.

 

[Ron Resnick]

David likes some Digital and I’ve heard very good Digital at his house. He happens to like the music on this recording,

I happen to like the music on that album as well.

Is that Musica Nuda album a digital recording or an analog recording?

 

[bonzo75]

I happen to like the music on that album as well.

Is that Musica Nuda album a digital recording or an analog recording?

How many analog recordings do you know that were first released on CD?

 

[PeterA]

One does not have to be a fan to realise it serves no purpose in audio evaluation

That depends entirely on the criteria one uses for judging.

 

[bonzo75]

LOL! I'm strictly here only for the entertainment...

And I will be your gladiator throwing myself to these lions out here

 

[PeterA]

Ron, which video do you prefer listening to and for what reasons? Which system combination do you prefer listening to and for what reasons?

 

[bonzo75]

One interesting thing is that on such tracks, everything remaining the same, a "stereotypical" DD will have the leading edge over a belt. More attack. No opportunity to show flow and continuity, stop start of a DD will not be noticed. I did notice more leading edge in the Gryphon. DD is just one of the many different variables.

 

[PeterA]

One interesting thing is that on such tracks, everything remaining the same, a "stereotypical" DD will have the leading edge over a belt. More attack. No opportunity to show flow and continuity, stop start of a DD will not be noticed. I did notice more leading edge in the Gryphon. DD is just one of the many different variables.

When I saw the gear list, my first thought went to the turntable arm cartridge and cables. Denon direct Drive turntables are actually pretty good. Another factor could be turntable cartridge set up. There’s a lot going on in those videos and impossible to separate cause-and-effect. It needs to be evaluated in the room, isolating variables.

 

[Alrainbow]

So no amp speaker interaction in t is ?
Does anyone else hear her vocal shout at Times
while as some said things are very difficult to accept if we don’t consider the situation of room and huge speakers in them.

 

[bonzo75]

So no amp speaker interaction in t is ?
Does anyone else hear her vocal shout at Times
while as some said things are very difficult to accept if we don’t consider the situation of room and huge speakers in them.

It could be anything. Lots of different variables changing on a recording that does not help one judge. This is why people have bad set ups, no matter how much they “hone” their set ups in custom built rooms