Tad reference 1
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Fully agree with this, the TADs will hilight every aspect, good and bad, of the system behind it. It's not the speakers that are the issue.
Yes, and lets not forget the history of pioneer and tad. Long before Andrew jones arrived, who designed the cabinets. The beryllium driver was invented by pioneer in the 70s. Tads labs studio history and electronics history is way deeper than one person. Not discrediting AJ of course, but perspective.
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Actually, not quite. TAD , has been sold, or/and split from Pioneer, and from what I heard, not a real thing anymore (without Andrew Johns, that is now with ELAC, there is not much there anyway).
Perhaps an update or two would have made a difference
I'm not sure you understand the history of TAD and your comment shows a lack of understanding, as does your comment on updates. Magico are updating their products to keep selling them (probably to people more easily drawn in to marketing), great speaker designs stand the test of time. As do great designs generally. Speakers should not be updated regularly when their done right, technology doesn't change rapidly enough for a start. We are all still listening to the original speaker design principles from the 1900's, drivers and cabinets improving on the same physical principles.
Once again you misunderstand. The mk 2 refers to a coating manufacturing technique changed in later production, the actual finished product is exactly the same as the mk 1. No difference. Hilighting for accuracy, so others reading posts are not misinformed.
Dream on, I still have a Nokia phone that works, but that is not a reason not to buy an IPhone (and Ferrari still have 4 wheels, just like the original Ford Model T). It is too bad, the R1 could greatly benefit from an update, the tweeter is way too hot at high volume, but don’t feel bad, everything can be improved, that does not mean that what you have is crap, it only means it can be better, but you will most likely never going to experience that...
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Absolutely agreed...some have said the tweeters are way too hot, etc.....all I can say here is "not with the right system and cables"!
Oh, please...
This is how they measure, they are hot because they are hot. Like I said, an update would have been helpful.
https://www.stereophile.com/content/tad-compact-reference-cr1-loudspeaker-measurements
Sorry,...when you say 'way too hot...' I thought you were talking about how they sound and play music, not how they measure. Thanks for clarifying.
Personally, a update would be good someday if they could find any way to make them sound better than they do now.. I enjoy the pair I own, very much
and heard alot of speakers up and down the scale before making this jump.
If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. But you can think it is a Swan, if it makes you feel better, that is all that matter, right?
To be fair, this is the measurement for the Compact Reference, not SCAudiophile's Ref 1s...plus the inroom measurement in JA's room shows a much flatter response though, as you say, the review did note it almost was "too extended"...As JA says in the review, "The CR1's treble is smooth and extended—perhaps too extended, considering that this response ideally should slope down a little with increasing frequency, due to the increasing absorptivity of the room's furnishings at high frequencies."
Read more at https://www.stereophile.com/content...dspeaker-measurements#tcb8h74AgxLboMBU.99(see in room measurement from same review below).
In any event, its still not SCAudiophile's Ref 1s.
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Yes,...that and the respect for other people having differing opinions!
Hey, I was told few posts ago that people like me buy products for their marketing plots. I heard these opinions, now you hear mine, with all due respect
Maybe JA should read updated textbooks, the tweeter is in breakup mode, form ~9KHz and up (and if you can hear, you will hear it clearly listening to the speaker, especially at high volume). Unacceptable in this day and age.
This is just ridiculous. You have no idea what you're talking about, you have no idea what breakup is and your opinions seem quite odd and biased against TAD.
Sure, then please explain what a 6 db (!!) deep right in the middle of the tweeter bandpass is. And don't forget the immediate trainwreck clime afterword, up 15 (!!) db at 30K. This tweeter is in a complete shambles above 9K (and you can hear it as well). No bias against anything, just pointing out a weak spot, one that could have used an update.
Dear smoking joe, i am using Pantheon with MBL ref line, could you tell few words about atlantis why you like Tad over atlantis?
Hello! I plan to buy TAD ref One in place of my Avantgarde Mezzo. However, my room is quite small: 3.56 m by 7.80. Do you think its too small for these speakers? Should i prefer CR1? Thank you
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