Just wondering if the USB card powers internally (PCI) or externally (DC-In)? What is the power requirement?
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Just wondering if the USB card powers internally (PCI) or externally (DC-In)? What is the power requirement?
It needs 5V and 12V DC, @ray-dude just answered the question how that would be powered in the Extreme.
lots of great sounding progress on multiple fronts, congrats
any update on the mini?
Hi Emile, could you expand a little further on the fact that Chord Dave customers are replacing the Chord Mscaler with HQPlayer?
Will the new USB card come as standard Extreme configuration or as additional output?
Will the Mini when it comes get the same USB card?
Thank you
Matt
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Hieukm, I will answer this question for you via PM.
Welcome @austinpop to Club Extreme! For those interested, Rajiv has posted a very nice first impressions write up over at AS:
https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/...eaming/page/692/?tab=comments#comment-1073467
https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/...eaming/page/692/?tab=comments#comment-1073467
Not a surprise at all, after seeing the coversions of Romaz & ray-dude.
What we had in mind to use in the mini is on backorder with unknown ETA. With that said we are reconsidering it's launch and investigating alternatives. One of the issues we are currently facing is a very significant volume of enquiries/questions. We have 3 people spending considerable amounts of time just answering e-mails / phone calls. It has us second guessing if we want to launch a cheaper product which might sell at even larger quantities. We have already discontinued the Setchi, and we might be forced to discontinue the Daiza as well, or at least limit availability to Extreme owners. We consider customer support quality as mission critical and we would not want to be in a situation to see that compromised.
Will the new USB card come as standard Extreme configuration or as additional output?
Will the Mini when it comes get the same USB card?
Thank you
Matt
That should really be a standard option, but it's obviously of no use for networked DACs.
Thank you @romaz ! There's also some information in @austinpop 's writeup linked to above.
Very understandable, Emile. Scaling up without compromising product quality and customer service can be challenging even in the best of times, let alone in a time of parts shortages. As a customer, I really value your keeping the highest priority on quality.
i understand completely..............maybe(?) time for plan B here (saving many pennies, how much can i get for the stuff that would be replaced, etc)
A plan B idea we're considering is releasing the design to the DIY market and/or 3rd party builders. What that could look like is we'd make the ATX DC regulator board available for purchase with a recommended motherboard/CPU and software configuration. Perhaps with a few CNC machined parts you'd need to complete the build properly into a HDPlex or Streacom chassis. That way people could still benefit from our design efforts and we'd have a ROI.
This is good "Systems Thinking".....& Strategy planning
As per above, scaling up, maintaining your USP requires more resources, people & revenue. Clearly there has been a huge amount of work/cost that has went into R&D, and that obviously needs to continue. (Few steps ahead of your competitors) I presume one of the concerns would be; will it cannibalise, take away sales from the Extreme? The DIY market is niche, so probably not, even if it did, you'll be making profit on the parts. It will give you more revenue/profit to further invest in R&D. Other synergies I see is; DIY feedback (Sure Romaz has giving good feedback so far), free PR/advertisement, which sure will lead more non DIYers purchase a full blown Extreme machine. You will still have control of what sits at top with only selling 80% of what the Extreme is capable off.
Profit leads to investment, Development and quality
I see Taiko as a Blue Ocean Strategy company (if not read the book I encourage you to)
When I'm Strategy planning, we as a team tend to right down on board the pros's and cons, but instead of calling them cons we call them barriers, then we focus on how we turn barriers into Pro's or neutrals.
The fact I would love to get my hands on your design for DIY, there might be some bias here.
Update on TAS
Dear all,
we are making considerable progress on the TAS front and I am happy to be able to share with you our current state of development:
Our Taiko app runs on Android as well as on iOS, tablets and phones are supported.
Android tablet:
Apple iPhone:
You start by accessing the Taiko home screen. From here you enter your Extreme’s serial number (you only have to do this once) and your Extreme will show up.
From here you can either go into the Extreme settings or start TAS right away.
In the settings, you can choose your DAC driver, switch between Roon and TAS, restart the TAS player (TAP) and reboot the Extreme from the comfort of your chair.
When selecting to open TAS, it will bring up the user interface instantly. A few impressions of the Player, the Album Search and a snapshot of some TIDAL playlists:
On a tablet it will scale nicely too.
Taiko App:
Portrait Mode:
Overview of a selection of available radio stations:
This is just a sneak peek, we are still crushing our heads over native higher red DSD, which we would very much like to see included in the first release of TAS. Sound quality is very promising to say the least.
Watch this space for news, we are getting closer to the release!
Cheers
Chris
Dear all,
we are making considerable progress on the TAS front and I am happy to be able to share with you our current state of development:
Our Taiko app runs on Android as well as on iOS, tablets and phones are supported.
Android tablet:
Apple iPhone:
You start by accessing the Taiko home screen. From here you enter your Extreme’s serial number (you only have to do this once) and your Extreme will show up.
From here you can either go into the Extreme settings or start TAS right away.
In the settings, you can choose your DAC driver, switch between Roon and TAS, restart the TAS player (TAP) and reboot the Extreme from the comfort of your chair.
When selecting to open TAS, it will bring up the user interface instantly. A few impressions of the Player, the Album Search and a snapshot of some TIDAL playlists:
On a tablet it will scale nicely too.
Taiko App:
Portrait Mode:
Overview of a selection of available radio stations:
This is just a sneak peek, we are still crushing our heads over native higher red DSD, which we would very much like to see included in the first release of TAS. Sound quality is very promising to say the least.
Watch this space for news, we are getting closer to the release!
Cheers
Chris
Two quick questions, Chris.
1) Do you foresee the ability to play TAS on Apple desktop/laptop computers?
2) Do you foresee the ability to create playlists within TAS (not just Tidal playlists or other streaming service playlists)? Or the ability to import playlists created in Roon for playback in TAS?
By the way, I like the idea of making the Extreme Mini design and various parts available to the DIY community. The idea alone is generating waves already in the community, I'm sure.
Thank you!
1) Do you foresee the ability to play TAS on Apple desktop/laptop computers?
2) Do you foresee the ability to create playlists within TAS (not just Tidal playlists or other streaming service playlists)? Or the ability to import playlists created in Roon for playback in TAS?
By the way, I like the idea of making the Extreme Mini design and various parts available to the DIY community. The idea alone is generating waves already in the community, I'm sure.
Thank you!
Hi,
ad 1) A desktop application has not been in our initial release plan, but it is no big stretch to expand that later on. I'll put that in the backlog but cannot guarantee that it will be available at the time of first launch.
ad 2) Yes, you can generate and save playlists within TAS. Regarding Roon playlists, I'd have to research how they store these technically, it might be possible but that would also be something for a later release. I can envision that mixed local and streaming playlists could cause troubles here.
Chris
Hi Chris,
In my opinion, from a user perspective, it would be ideal to have the Streaming playlists and Local playlist to be separate. Is that how you envision it at this time?
I could see how it might be convenient to be running Roon on one device (like the Desktop) and TAS on another (like the iPad) to make it easier to go between the two. Would a log-in/ log-out procedure still have to occur going between one to the other?
