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I did remove the swiches and it is all ok but not as good as it was . Big step down.
I wish I could just take it out and have both
better music and money back from the switches ....
Just shows it's like everything, system dependent.
 

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I'll try copper ethernet again from modem/router to Extreme maybe later today or tomorrow just to hear for myself.

It’s early days with TAS, but there’s mounting evidence towards UTP cable screens being quite harmful. If you do try this, do try an unshielded UTP cable or atleast one with a “floating” shield.

It would not be very surprising to me this is actually a big advantage of Fiber. We’re all used to using cat6/7/8 shielded cables. The signal carrying conductors are transformer decoupled but the shield is not, or it may just act as an antenna as its directly connected to the server chassis (and usually the switch chassis).
 

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It’s early days with TAS, but there’s mounting evidence towards UTP cable screens being quite harmful. If you do try this, do try an unshielded UTP cable or atleast one with a “floating” shield.

It would not be very surprising to me this is actually a big advantage of Fiber. We’re all used to using cat6/7/8 shielded cables. The signal carrying conductors are transformer decoupled but the shield is not, or it may just act as an antenna as its directly connected to the server chassis (and usually the switch chassis).
Well, the installed copper ethernet run is good quality generic and has molded plastic terminations at both ends rather than fancy metal connectors. So if it is shielded there is hopefully no complete path through the shield via the connectors.

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How is well is WiFi likely to work with TAS?
 

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Well, the installed copper ethernet run is good quality generic and has molded plastic terminations at both ends rather than fancy metal connectors. So if it is shielded there is hopefully no complete path through the shield via the connectors.

Steve Z

All plastic connectors qualify as non conductive :)
 
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All plastic connectors qualify as non conductive :)
Whew, so I didn't waste the money spent on electrical engineering courses after all!

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Something like a netgear Orbi does seem to perform quite ok if spaced away from your system.
Emile, in the UK we are stuck with our commercial routers, we cannot swap them out for more advanced alternatives.
The router in my house is 50', and one storey, from the audio setup.
 

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Something like a netgear Orbi does seem to perform quite ok if spaced away from your system.
Emile, in the UK we are stuck with our commercial routers, we cannot swap them out for more advanced alternatives.
The router in my house is 50', and one storey, from the audio setup.
I think I must be the only Extreme user that uses wifi to stream from my Orbi router downstairs to an Orbi satellite upstairs in my sound room.I then run Ethernet from the satellite to the Extreme. Contrary to everyone's advice not to have this near my audio gear, mine is sitting directly behind my amps and there is zero noise in my system
 
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Just shows it's like everything, system dependent.
Yes that might be a reason.
Buffalows with Pink Faun Ultra clocks are just amazing at this time.
They add so much uncompressed space and authority to the music
I cant disconnect them for more than a short time.
 

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I think I must be the only Extreme user that uses wifi to stream from my Orbi router downstairs to an Orbi satellite upstairs in my sound room.I then run Ethernet from the satellite to the Extreme. Contrary to everyone's advice not to have this near my audio gear, mine is sitting directly behind my amps and there is zero noise in my system
You’re not the only heretic here Steve as I do the same in the interests of domestic harmony.

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You’re not the only heretic here Steve as I do the same in the interests of domestic harmony.

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as someone who works on wireless communication, i'm terrified :)
its a good thing the extreme is a virtual faraday cage!

is the wifi access point reasonably nearby? if so, power control and beamforming antennas could be keeping the transmitted power low.
 

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[[[[[ Roon VS TAS ]]]]]

As you all feel, Roon and TAS have many differences about Sound Quality.

My customer who borrowed Divin Marquis made two movies can show differences of them.

But these are recording videoes.

Sound qualities are all bad.

TAS has perfect sound balance.

Roon has bass sound boost.

In case of bad quality movies, you may misunderstand by yourself.



1. SGM Extreme with Roon




2. SGM Extreme with TAS




Roon has very dirty bass sounds.

If you hear this system directly, you will not be patient for Roon's idiot dirty bass sounds.
 

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as someone who works on wireless communication, i'm terrified :)
its a good thing the extreme is a virtual faraday cage!

is the wifi access point reasonably nearby? if so, power control and beamforming antennas could be keeping the transmitted power low.
Hmm, the more modern WiFi access points will have this type of tech and likely to be pushing out less power when nearby

Emile does have antennas and RF amplifiers to measure GHz emissions This could be a nice project for a summer intern.
 
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as someone who works on wireless communication, i'm terrified :)
its a good thing the extreme is a virtual faraday cage!

is the wifi access point reasonably nearby? if so, power control and beamforming antennas could be keeping the transmitted power low.
Is 50ft away, which is why I’m doing this to save traipsing 20m of ethernet cable along the hallway. I did a comparison against being hardwired with a long run of my own Sablon ethernet cable a couple of years ago and the wifi sounded better. Go figure.
 

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