Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème

[Esotar]

Do Roon and Jplay work together?

Yes, Roon and JPLAY Femto are used together.

HQPlayer can be also used to SGM Extreme, but sound quality is much

I am interested in how users are connecting their Extreme to their DAC and created a poll

Almost users use USB cables.

Extreme has AES/EBU or Dual AES/EBU options.

At least, Korean Extreme users all use USB Cables.

Light Harmonic 20G Korean Custom USB cable and Signature are popular.

And I sell Skogrand Beethoven USB cable.

 

[Kris]

Light Harmonic 20G Korean Custom USB cable and Signature are popular.

And I sell Skogrand Beethoven USB cable.

How about intona ultimate ?
Did you try it in comparison to the others ?

 

[Esotar]

How about intona ultimate ?
Did you try it in comparison to the others ?

Emile uses Intona Ultimate.

And I sent 20G DE (My company name : DIGITUS Labs Edition ===> DE) Signature to Emile.

He is very busy and didn't test two cables yet.

When he finish comparison test, he will post his opinion.

 

[justubes]

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Emile uses Intona Ultimate.

Esotar,
How is the Skogrand Beethoven USB, very expensive and reportedly very good?

Do you acheive much better results, many may be finding usb connection very accurate but less musical over xlr or bnc.

 

[Kingsrule]

Which way is better in your setup?

Still trying various combinations. And the Extreme is still breaking in
I'll report back

 

[gds7368]

Extreme is connected 2 ways:
USB to MSB PRO USB via FTA Callisto USB cable
And via MSB Renderer

Still trying power cables

Which connection for the MSB DAC sounded better? I'm in the market for an MSB Select 2 DAC ...
Also considering adding an Extreme server ....

 

[Mike Lavigne]

as i've previously written about, in my system (Extreme-MSB Select II) the MSB Pro USB interface was superior to the MSB Renderer v2. this was with the Curious USB cable.

then i removed the Renderer from my Select II dac and that was another small improvment.

then i switched the Curious USB to the Gobel USB cable. this was a larger step up than the one from the Pro USB to the Renderer.

keep in mind that my Renderer v2 was using copper Ethernet. later i switched to fiber and that was better. that might have effected the original preference for the Pro USB. but (there is always a 'but') the Gobel USB made such a huge difference that it dwarfed those other one's......in my particular system. so using a superior USB cable seems like it might be significant. and that the Extreme allows optimal use of the USB.

 

[Steve Williams]

as i've previously written about, in my system (Extreme-MSB Select II) the MSB Pro USB interface was superior to the MSB Renderer v2. this was with the Curious USB cable.

then i removed the Renderer from my Select II dac and that was another small improvment.

then i switched the Curious USB to the Gobel USB cable. this was a larger step up than the one from the Pro USB to the Renderer.

keep in mind that my Renderer v2 was using copper Ethernet. later i switched to fiber and that was better. that might have effected the original preference for the Pro USB. but (there is always a 'but') the Gobel USB made such a huge difference that it dwarfed those other one's......in my particular system. so using a superior USB cable seems like it might be significant. and that the Extreme allows optimal use of the USB.

I am not surprised by your findings Mike. I would also have bet that USB is the way to go with the MSB USB Pro Interface especially with a high quality USB cable

 

[gds7368]

Yes.

Does this mean that you actually use the Roon program to play music on the Extreme?

 

[Rhapsody]

Does this mean that you actually use the Roon program to play music on the Extreme?

You run Roon Core on the Extreme and control it with an Ipad OR you can play files that you store on the Extreme. Emile supplies the Extreme with Roon Core loaded, you just put in your Roon login information and hit play.

 

[Kris]

You run Roon Core on the Extreme and control it with an Ipad OR you can play files that you store on the Extreme. Emile supplies the Extreme with Roon Core loaded, you just put in your Roon login information and hit play.

But keep in mind roon is NOT playing in extreme.
Jplay femto is the engine that plays music in extreme

 

[Kris]

Roon is for library , metadata and navigation Only .

 

[Kingsrule]

But keep in mind roon is NOT playing in extreme.
Jplay femto is the engine that plays music in extreme

Maybe yes and maybe not....

 

[Kris]

Maybe yes and maybe not....

Is there something we should know ?
Could you please share your experience ?
Thx

 

[Taiko Audio]

Does this mean that you actually use the Roon program to play music on the Extreme?

That is correct. Roon is used for music playback.

From within Roon you can select an output/driver where to play to. This can be a networked device, or a device directly connected to the server by USB or AES/EBU.

Jplay classic is a driver with sound enhancing features, included with the Extreme, which can optionally sit between Roon and the system output (can not be used with networked devices).

Jplay femto is an upnp server and renderer, which is also included with the Extreme, but not used. If you where to use Jplay femto, you would not be using Roon.

Is there something we should know ?
Could you please share your experience ?
Thx

You would not make use of any Jplay feature if you are using a networked device, like the MSB renderer.

 

[Kris]

That is correct. Roon is used for music playback.

From within Roon you can select an output/driver where to play to. This can be a networked device, or a device directly connected to the server by USB or AES/EBU.

Jplay classic is a driver with sound enhancing features, included with the Extreme, which can optionally sit between Roon and the system output (can not be used with networked devices).

Jplay femto is an upnp server and renderer, which is also included with the Extreme, but not used. If you where to use Jplay femto, you would not be using Roon.



You would not make use of any Jplay feature if you are using a networked device, like the MSB renderer.

Thanks for making this clear.
So that could be set depending on the DAC you are using and type of connector selected.
For TotalDAC 12 or 24 used with Intona 3.0 via USB ( just like your setup) is Jplay femto or other output Preferreed ?

 

[Taiko Audio]

Thanks for making this clear.
So that could be set depending on the DAC you are using and type of connector selected.
For TotalDAC 12 or 24 used with Intona 3.0 via USB ( just like your setup) is Jplay femto or other output Preferreed ?

Jplay FEMTO is not an output, its a UPNP library manager and renderer, you cannot select it from within Roon as an output, it would entirely replace Roon when used. Presently it's not being used by any Extreme owner. Jplay CLASSIC is an ASIO driver you can select in Roon as an output, this is being used by most Extreme owners.

 

[Kris]

Jplay CLASSIC is an ASIO driver you can select in Roon as an output, this is being used by most Extreme owners.

Thank you Emile.
Is this also your preferred setup ?

 

[Taiko Audio]

Thank you Emile.
Is this also your preferred setup ?

It is.

 

[Kris]

Jplay CLASSIC is an ASIO driver you can select in Roon as an output, this is being used by most Extreme owners.

It sounds they see it different :

http://jplay.eu/forum/index.php?/topic/2797-jplay-femto-on-a-20k-eur-music-server/?hl=taiko



JPLAY FEMTO on a 20k EUR music server
Started by Marcin_gps , Feb 18 2019 10:57 AM
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#1 JPLAY FEMTO on a 20k EUR music server: post #1 Marcin_gps
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 10:57 AM
JPLAY FEMTO was chosen as the playback software for the Taiko Audio SGM Extreme 20,000EUR music server.