Mostly my familiarity with the Gobel speakers, having heard them at many shows and with CH Precision and Timo's amps.What makes you think that the Parasound JC-1+ amps were the weakest link? Costs? Please elaborate as your inference says a lot about you and your publication. Curiously waiting on your educated insight?
OMG, taking things this seriously will only shorten your life. Lee simply expressed how impressed he was with Jacob's room. it is not worth your energy or time to address.I could not agree more. I think it is really silly and totally disrespectful to all the people that worked their butts off to produce the show and to the hundreds of people that worked so hard to transport and set up all those rooms. The amount of effort is something most have no idea about. If Mr. Helibrunn had brought all that gear from his home and set it up at the show in one day now THAT would be impressive. Its no coincidence that that system has never been displayed at any show. VAC and VS have done their mega display at ALL the shows. Big difference!!!!
A 7 figure system in a custom designed room that took months and maybe years to design , build, install and set up with multiple people helping is not what happens at any show.
The title is silly and really disrespectful to Gary Gill and the dozens of others who went, worked and tried to show their gear.
I would be happy in a separate thread to discuss the exact process that we did. Just for kicks and giggles if anyone cares.
Thanks Jeffery T I though I was the only one.
Jay and I talked a good bit at the show. He likes to experiment a lot and I think that's a good thing. I would definitely consider the Dartzeel if in the budget of the individual Wilson owner. Maybe some day I will own the stereo amp.Jacob’s system now has a spotlight on it. Jay may now have to consider the Dartzeel amplifiers for his Wilson speakers in his lab. His YouTube videos are pretty widely viewed.
A reviewers private system has nothing to do with a show with all its room/ set up complications
Ps I always say you have to compare membrane surface to membrane surface regarding honest system comparisons
An avalon isis against a magico m pro / wilson alexx.
Wison sasha daw against a magico S 5 avalon eidolon etc
Beautiful room, love the polys.I was finally able to go to Jacob Heilbrunn's house and hear his sound system. It was breathtaking and even surpassed the WAMM installation at Dave Wilson's house.
As the photo will show, he had some exquisite gear, most notably an Air Force Zero with Graham and SAT tonearms and DS audio optical cartridge. Preamp and amp were Dartzeel which really impressed me. There was clearly something magical in the pairing of Wilson Audio WAMMs and the Dartzeel mono blocks. They are also the prettiest amplifiers I have seen. Digital which did not sound digital was the full Vivaldi stack.
Describing this fully in words is difficult but I think of two words, lifelike and effortless. Music just flowed so smoothly and naturally. Soundstage was deep and wide. You just could not locate where the speakers were if you closed your eyes.
A truly religious experience for me. It's valuable to hear how realistic the latest reference gear can be. Spooky good in many areas!
Perhaps even better was having a few hours to talk to Jacob. He is a very interesting and intelligent person. I am very glad we have him writing for The Absolute Sound.
Where was I doing that?I m not talking membrane tech but membrane surface .
A faithfull reproduction of a live event means moving a lot of air .
A small speaker will never be able to do that.
So comparing a big wamm/ subsonics system to smaller speakermodels in a manufacturers model line up at a show aint a fair comparison
Thats what the whole discussion was about isnt it .Where was I doing that?
Why would you pay Jay for a phone consult ? He is entertaining and has had a lot of nice gear in his garage, but a knowledgeable audiophile ?Jay and his audio lab. I paid Jay a reasonable $ for a phone consult with him. We never talked Dartzeel. He likes other amps that from what I have read, that voice a little different. I am a tube guy. I like to kick back and be immersed. But I do like detail. I have spent the last 2 weeks with my 15 ips RTR pouring over my 70 plus tapes through headphones. I find the details enthralling. At the same time I don't want clinical or chest pounding. I want rich music full of nuances to pour forth. So I'm trying to make a deal where A Dartzeel 108 Model1 can move me out of tubes for a while.
Lol yesJay and his audio lab. I paid Jay a reasonable $ for a phone consult with him
well that's your opinion it wasn't mine. If magazines can critic my room and my products I can certainly critic their choice of words. They are in the "word " business aren't they? oh by the way don't tell me how and what I should think or do.OMG, taking things this seriously will only shorten your life. Lee simply expressed how impressed he was with Jacob's room. it is not worth your energy or time to address.
Becasue I am interested in a new amp. I actually am going to finalize a deal for the Dartzeel today. So who was I to ask about how different amps seem to voice? Should I have put anther post on a forum? Trusted the armchair experts who have never heard what they are talking about. Should I have called a dealer. Why not pay a small fee to talk with a guy who has listened to hundreds of amps. I believe there is value in that. Jay spent 50 minutes on the phone with me. Listened to what I like to listen too, how I listen, what my room and life is like. Then we went around about how all these units seem to fit into their nitch. It was very informative and I am happy to give someone a few bucks for insight into the years of knowlege they have built up. If anyone else were looking to make a multi thousand dollar purchase, why not spend a couple bucks to also hear a potentially less biased opinion.Why would you pay Jay for a phone consult ? He is entertaining and has had a lot of nice gear in his garage, but a knowledgeable audiophile ?
Why dont you go and hear a dart for yourself ?Becasue I am interested in a new amp. I actually am going to finalize a deal for the Dartzeel today. So who was I to ask about how different amps seem to voice? Should I have put anther post on a forum? Trusted the armchair experts who have never heard what they are talking about. Should I have called a dealer. Why not pay a small fee to talk with a guy who has listened to hundreds of amps. I believe there is value in that. Jay spent 50 minutes on the phone with me. Listened to what I like to listen too, how I listen, what my room and life is like. Then we went around about how all these units seem to fit into their nitch. It was very informative and I am happy to give someone a few bucks for insight into the years of knowlege they have built up. If anyone else were looking to make a multi thousand dollar purchase, why not spend a couple bucks to also hear a potentially less biased opinion.