The State of High End Audio
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I was just going to "+1" to Amir's post above, but I found I had more to say. I hope you'll bear with me.
Indeed he does, but you also correctly recognise that it is his opinion. He usually provides the reasoning that led to that opinion. If you (the general "you") have a different opinion, you can express it, and hopefully the reasoning that supports your opinion. That's what I come here to read, not the outraged bellowing of sacred oxen.
It bears repeating - regardless of the absolutist nature of his writing style, it's still just his opinion. You don't have to accept it. Time will tell if he's right or wrong, and with the pace of technological progress we won't have long to wait to find out. Remember, we need people like Blizzard. I sometimes wonder where we'd be today if the proponents of digital media and solid-state amplification had given up when their early efforts were criticised. Would we still be using only vinyl and tubes? There appear to be some here whom this would suit just fine, but personally I'm glad the "Blizzards" persevered.
Indeed he does, but you also correctly recognise that it is his opinion. He usually provides the reasoning that led to that opinion. If you (the general "you") have a different opinion, you can express it, and hopefully the reasoning that supports your opinion. That's what I come here to read, not the outraged bellowing of sacred oxen.
It bears repeating - regardless of the absolutist nature of his writing style, it's still just his opinion. You don't have to accept it. Time will tell if he's right or wrong, and with the pace of technological progress we won't have long to wait to find out. Remember, we need people like Blizzard. I sometimes wonder where we'd be today if the proponents of digital media and solid-state amplification had given up when their early efforts were criticised. Would we still be using only vinyl and tubes? There appear to be some here whom this would suit just fine, but personally I'm glad the "Blizzards" persevered.
I agree with that opinion, 100%.
The complainers of other's opinions are losing ground real fast behind all the dust of the prairie's buffaloes.
Complainers of other's opinions are different from complainers of Blizzards opinions. People like Frantz and Amir have opinions based on experience. Blizz doesn't. I could give you a lot of opinions on how to play the cello. Respecting it does not make you a better person because, sadly, I have never touched one in my life.
Mike doesn't have experience like Frantz and Amir...he has experience of his own, like we all. We embrace that experience or we don't.
And it's not about Mike or respect or how to play a cello or being a better person; it's about today's state of high end audio...in our own words/opinion.
We don't compare, we don't judge...we discuss and share our opinion. We agree or we disagree or both and we still live together under the same ozone layer of the atmosphere surrounding us. We escape in the clear air of the forests from the polluted air of our large industrial cities driven by millions of carbon vehicles. We 'decarbonize' in the yet un-destroyed jungles.
No, he doesn't...I am not interested in people coming on this forum and claiming experience with "Trust me, I am God, though I don't have experience" attitude. And if Amir does not want to mod it, he should let the free market do so, and check the claims of people. I am here to learn from people who have genuine experiences, and recently the amount of noise I have to wade through to get there has gone up exponentially.
Best is to simply use the proper tools...there are some here @ WBF. It's called "smart attention"...take what's good for you, and leave the rest free to others to decide on their own.
In your opinion, who specifically are some of these "guiding lights"? (Sorry for feeding the troll, I'm genuinely interested)
I did respond to Frantz's original post in this thread here; post #3 of the thread.
but getting to your particular question as to what's my take on the state of high end audio......with all due respect to you Bob, the current state of things here on WBF is a bit too toxic for me to get into that. i'll let others do that dance. my earlier exchange with Blizzard was all the fun I could handle.
this year I've watched only 2 or 3 movies in my Home Theatre. I did watch one this weekend as I was in the 'popcorn mood'......'Mission Impossible; Rogue Nation'. it did scratch the itch.
last week I did watch my first movie at a Movie Theatre in 7-8 years; Star Wars. I did enjoy it.
my music room has me under it's spell.
A little more discussion about music and the reasons everyone got into audio from a more subjective general path as opposed to an objective more defined path would be welcomed. Surely there is room for both.
Hello, rbbert and good evening to you. I had asked this before and I got one name and was informed to look the rest up, that names weren't to be disclosed due to busy schedules and not enough time for clarity. Just an FYI sir.
Agreed sir.
Tom
Looks like all the innovation haters have their panties in a bunch again. No point in addressing nonsense. Back to Blizzards corner for me. The most popular place on the forum as far as thread count/views is concerned. And of course, it's only going to get more popular as time passes 
Maybe its time for your own board? LOL!Looks like all the innovation haters have their panties in a bunch again. No point in addressing nonsense. Back to Blizzards corner for me. The most popular place on the forum as far as thread count/views is concerned. And of course, it's only going to get more popular as time passes
Yes Mike I remember reading that post earlier; I was wondering if today's some' new could have been added. You recommended some very nice speakers in the past that were very affordable and I always take your suggestions in very high regard.
As for movies...you well said it: "My music room has me under it's spell." ...I understand 666% that line.
And last; as the state of the affairs @ home (WBF): I missed the descriptions of music listening experience of such high caliber members as you, Jack, Steve, Gary, Bruce, the other Gary, and so many others with ultra hi end stereo hi-fi systems. Because you form the highest platform of the audio high end as today's real life.
It is an enriching experience for me to read your latest state of the art emotional musical freedom...that's how I advance too in my audio/musical journey.
That interaction between the artist's performance and the music listener in his room with his music recording reproduced through his synergy gear is a feast to behold, an accomplishment of hard love and labor and time. ...The space suits its form and language...the music language.
I will add this to what I just said from the deepest bottom of my heart: You are above everything that you want to be, and you can give much much more than letting yourself being slow down from a different train going in another direction. You have all the strength necessary to float above the surface and share/participate with full passion and verve.
Just do it, feel the high vibes instead of letting yourself down from criticizing the new breed around. Mike Davis brings something good for an elite within an elite.
If we were to ban all the people who we are not an agreement with the world will look just the way it is right now.
The best way, in my well calculated opinion, to embellish/improve it, is to take a personal positive charge on our own. ...Without any prejudice, conception, judgement, all that slow jazz without effervescence.
It is us who we advance the state of the high end audio, nobody else. Forget about Mike Davis; he is not the interest subject of this thread or any other thread and of this forum/site.
You and you only with what you positively bring is the only true essence of the real life state...your life...and nobody else's life.
This I believe firmly in, and if anyone else has a better vision; please show me. Because everything I learned in the school of living on this planet with all the other humans...friends, family, joy, pain, love, hate, ... everything from when we are born and up to today is the true reflection of the state of the high end audio.
What comes out of the loudspeaker's drivers are the voices/vocals of the artist musicians/singers that were recorded in a certain time in space.
And how it is perceived/heard by our own set of ears depends of so many things that the pursuit of the absolute apotheosis in the holy grail of total emotional freedom and fulfillment towards the ultimate ecstasy of internal (soul and spirit) and external (senses directly conductors of blood into the veins pumping from the heart) joy become our common today's spiritual food. We survive from eating and drinking the fruits and the juice of life itself. ...In its most pure natural instinct.
The direct emotional connection between the artist and the recipient is our affair. That's our all own expertise.
Not to leave you hanging... May I offer a trio of gentleman who I consider guiding lights.
Fair question (to everyone, anyone): Who are the guiding lights in the state of high end audio?
If I attempt an answer; it would be in the direction of the researchers, the explorers, the designers of electrical mechanical loudspeakers and electronic gear in the pursuit of higher sound delivery. And not necessarily the most expensive but it can well be...close anyway.
But here's the thing; audio is not constant, music is always moving, and with it new gear and drivers.
The day that we can install a real piano inside a box (speaker), and with the rest of the band in the other speaker...that'll be the day!
Till then our pursuit will continue in the hope that we can achieve the impossible dream and using the probability of today's latest technology.
Twenty minutes is the average time we get up, walk towards our platine table, and flip the album's side. During that time the music stopped playing but it is still vibrating inside our body and soul. Talk about magic!
The gel/bond that exists between familiarity and new discovery; where is it coming from really?
If I attempt an answer; it would be in the direction of the researchers, the explorers, the designers of electrical mechanical loudspeakers and electronic gear in the pursuit of higher sound delivery. And not necessarily the most expensive but it can well be...close anyway.
But here's the thing; audio is not constant, music is always moving, and with it new gear and drivers.
The day that we can install a real piano inside a box (speaker), and with the rest of the band in the other speaker...that'll be the day!
Till then our pursuit will continue in the hope that we can achieve the impossible dream and using the probability of today's latest technology.
Twenty minutes is the average time we get up, walk towards our platine table, and flip the album's side. During that time the music stopped playing but it is still vibrating inside our body and soul. Talk about magic!
The gel/bond that exists between familiarity and new discovery; where is it coming from really?
Looks like all the innovation haters have their panties in a bunch again. No point in addressing nonsense. Back to Blizzards corner for me. The most popular place on the forum as far as thread count/views is concerned. And of course, it's only going to get more popular as time passes
Sounds like someone needs to get over their self.
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