The Contagion movie was from 2011. I don't think the media changed much since then, but other things have.
This Corona Virus Mania is Just Too Much, We All Need to Chill!
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The Contagion movie was from 2011. I don't think the media changed much since then, but other things have.
What changed is that, if I remember correctly, the original idea was that it was an intentionally release or that the Chinese worked on it as a bioweapon - but perhaps I'm mistaken about either option. A lab accident surrounding a research project sounds far more plausible.
Al, what I think has changed is the source of the information. When the mainstream media was not willing to discuss the possibility that the place of origin was a laboratory instead of the wet market, People dismissed any such discussion as crazy conspiracy theory coming from radical right wing Internet blogs. Ron simply asked a question about origin and the proximity of the lab to the wet market and no one was willing to accept the possibility that local government officials would cover such a thing up.
I think Ron just asked whether or not the theory was possible and he was readily dismissed just as many people are for watching Fox News. The Washington post asking the same question lends some credibility and those sympathetic with the editorial bias of that organization are more willing to pay attention.
Perhaps this is controversial and polarizing but we clearly live in a divided society where the media is biased and individuals are biased and that is being reflected and exposed quite dramatically during this time of crisis. I hope we can move beyond our division when this is all finished and coexist in more harmony.
I think Ron just asked whether or not the theory was possible and he was readily dismissed just as many people are for watching Fox News. The Washington post asking the same question lends some credibility and those sympathetic with the editorial bias of that organization are more willing to pay attention.
Perhaps this is controversial and polarizing but we clearly live in a divided society where the media is biased and individuals are biased and that is being reflected and exposed quite dramatically during this time of crisis. I hope we can move beyond our division when this is all finished and coexist in more harmony.
why don't you start your own www.audiowithpolitics.com forum vs. crapping on me
some of us don't come to WBF to read politics - why is it so hard for you to understand this basic point
Keith, it’s gotten to the point where people post links to articles and others leap to judgment based simply on the source of the information. What I don’t like are the personal attacks and name calling and the hypocrisy. I think we should be open to information and be more excepting of other opinions.
Right now, during these days, this virus is the main topic of discussion. Since it is about our health and well-being and the future of society, we should be able to discuss it with some civility.
I don't know what you are defining as "mainstream media" but publications such as the Washington Post had articles about this as far back as late January. Are you instead saying that the mainstream media didn't agree with it? You may not agree with their conclusions but to say they weren't willing to discuss it is not true.
I am sorry I can't take anything seriously when I hear the term " main stream media." Make a substantive argument, please.
Peter, please look at the original articles regarding the lab theory, and prove me wrong if my memory about them is incorrect. This is your reflexive stance: assume that it's only about the type of media, without making the distinction about what was actually said. As far as I remember the original articles claimed it was engineered, even suggesting that it was intended as a bioweapon. If I got that wrong please correct me. If any of the original internet blog articles said it was just an accident around a scientific research project, I will readily concede my error.
Thank you dminches. Did the Washington Post accept that the virus might have originated somewhere other than the Wuhan wet market? You may be right that they did, but I don't recall that. By "mainstream media", I mean the traditional and established TV news networks, cable, and otherwise, and the major national news papers and magazines. I would include the Washington Post among those. Almost all such news sources dismissed the possibility that the virus originated someplace other than the Wuhan wet market, in fact I watched a few cables news anchors dismiss the laboratory theory as outright conspiracy theory. I am not saying it was a man made virus or engineered, nor am I suggesting that it was released on purpose.
Ron, and others, were simply pointing out the proximity of the laboratory to the wet market and asking if it was possible that the lab could be the source. Others may then have jumped to conclusions and assumptions about what Ron was implying. And the treatment by local officials of that doctor who first mentioned his concern, is quite troubling. I can see why people would assume Ron was implying something more nefarious. One would have to ask Ron to if there were any implications behind his questions, but I understood his question at face value.
You got this wrong as usual. The original ZH article I posted which got everyone so upset was in regards to the Canadian lab and the mysterious firing and deportation of the Chinese nationals that were working with a virus there. They had ties to the Wuhan lab. The ZH article was posing a question if it was related. It was not stating anything as fact. As usual all the WBF know it alls went into an uproar about it being fake news, etc.
This is precisely what I mean about dismissing opinions from people who use particular language. "Main Stream Media" is a collection of new organizations that most observers would describe as those that are traditional and established news media, both print and television. I would include Fox News Corp and CNN in that group, as well as NYT, Washington Post, and WSJ. This is not meant to trigger anyone. Let's all get over this.
Al, I'm talking about Ron's post asking the question in another defunct thread. You seem to be talking about something else. What "refexive stance" are you talking about? I forward links to friends, and it is they, not me, who dismiss them because of the source.
Here you go Al. Here is Ron's original post in that other thread. I see no mention of conspiracy theory, engineered virus, intentional release, whatever. Simply an innocent question.
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Is it just a coincidence that this Coronavirus originated in Wuhan, the same city in which the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, the only high-security ("Level 4") virus research laboratory in China, is located?
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I think I have been clear, Peter. My question was about what was said, not about the source. Please look up if it was about an "engineered" virus, a "bioweapon" even, or simply about a lab accident surrounding a research project. Big difference.
EDIT: just saw your post about Ron's question. I am not sure if I even consciously noticed Ron's question originally. My question was about the internet article(s). I am still waiting for an answer.
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Is this the link you mentioned....fake news
https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-how-one-particular-coronavirus-myth-went-viral/
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