Transparent Audio Super & Ultra cables

Daverich4

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I'm not sure this is the right place to do this because I'm asking for assistance with "What's Better", not "What's Best". At any rate, I'm hoping to get some advice on upgrading my interconnects and speaker cables. I'm currently using Audioquest Colorado balanced interconnects and Audioquest Castle Rock speaker cables to wire up my system of Audio Research Ref 6 preamp, Ref 75SE power amp and Wilson Audio Sasha ll speakers. Transparent Audio products seem to come up often in connection with Wilson speakers but an extensive search of the posts here mostly comes up with discussions of their Reference & Opus product lines. Those cost more than I'm prepared to invest in my system at this time. I'm writing to see if anyone has had experience with their Super or Ultra product lines or at least any thoughts on their suitability for my system. Or, perhaps some alternative suggestions for something else that's not more than the Ultra price range?

I'm pretty much flying blind (deaf?) here as I live just outside of Charlotte, NC and the only audio store in the area is mostly home theatre with mid-fi two channel stuff. That leaves them out as a place to audition anything. The Cable Co has a rental program but doesn't carry Transparent. If someone has any suggestions I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
 

thedudeabides

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Hi Dave,

IF you think you are going to explore the "wire jungle" and likely buy some new cables, the Cable Company (CC) is pretty hard to beat given their extensive inventory. Be advised that once you provide CC with money, there's no refund and you are committed to buying something from CC.

First question you should ask yourself. What is it that I don't like about the sound of my system and will changing wires resolve that issue? If you can't answer that, I'd proceed very cautiously before spending any of your money.

You are wise to pursue a "home audition" and remember that only you can decide what wire is best regardless of any advice given on this site or elsewhere. Good luck.
 
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Daverich4

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Hi Dave,

IF you think you are going to explore the "wire jungle" and likely buy some new cables, the Cable Company (CC) is pretty hard to beat given their extensive inventory. Be advised that once you provide CC with money, there's no refund and you are committed to buying something from CC.

First question you should ask yourself. What is it that I don't like about the sound of my system and will changing wires resolve that issue? If you can't answer that, I'd proceed very cautiously before spending any of your money.

You are wise to pursue a "home audition" and remember that only you can decide what wire is best regardless of any advice given on this site or elsewhere. Good luck.

Thanks for the suggestion of the Cable Co, however, as I mentioned in my post they don’t carry Transparent Audio products. However, if someone suggests a product line they do carry I would certainly give them a try.
 

dan31

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It might be worth giving Transparent a call. They might know a dealer that will let you demo. I think Taralabs offers a direct demo plan. Maybe transparent can offer you a demo set as well.
 

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Hi Daverich4,

I have owned several generations of Transparent over the last 12 years...nearly all of it second hand or at steep discounts. I have also auditioned a couple generations of Ultra. My personal viewpoint has consistently been:

1. Buy 2nd hand if you can
2. Buy Reference of an older generation rather than sub-Reference of the newest generation at new pricing

I have owned Ref (pre XL), Ref XL, Ref XL MM2, and then most recently upgraded due a few knockout opportunities to Opus largely the latest Gen 5.

For some reason when I compared with Ultra, for some reason while I could hear where the latest generation at the time had some improvements, overall I found the Reference of the earlier generation more affordable, more balanced, and somehow 'polished' and clear in a way that the newest version of the sub-Reference level could not quite deliver.

While my thoughts do NOT provide you with any insight into how to audition, hopefully it helps give you some options around where you may wish to look. Good hunting.
 
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Daverich4

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Hi Daverich4,

I have owned several generations of Transparent over the last 12 years...nearly all of it second hand or at steep discounts. I have also auditioned a couple generations of Ultra. My personal viewpoint has consistently been:

1. Buy 2nd hand if you can
2. Buy Reference of an older generation rather than sub-Reference of the newest generation at new pricing

I have owned Ref (pre XL), Ref XL, Ref XL MM2, and then most recently upgraded due a few knockout opportunities to Opus largely the latest Gen 5.

For some reason when I compared with Ultra, for some reason while I could hear where the latest generation at the time had some improvements, overall I found the Reference of the earlier generation more affordable, more balanced, and somehow 'polished' and clear in a way that the newest version of the sub-Reference level could not quite deliver.

While my thoughts do NOT provide you with any insight into how to audition, hopefully it helps give you some options around where you may wish to look. Good hunting.

Thanks for your suggestions. I'm under the impression that the Reference Series cables can be tuned to your system. If so, is that something you had done?
 

LL21

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Thanks for your suggestions. I'm under the impression that the Reference Series cables can be tuned to your system. If so, is that something you had done?
The older Reference series did NOT get calibrated to your system. So those were the ones I owned. Since then, due to some incredibly attractive opportunities, my Opus cables ARE calibrated to the system. You might wish to look at the factory recertified cables...unlike equipment with lots of moving parts where recertified might be a euphemism for 'it broke, we couldnt fix it so we gave the customer a new one...and now are selling this 'recertified' ", a cable recertified is a way to bring up the price of something that in fact is in perfectly good working order but deeply discounted in the open market. And THEN you get calibration.
 
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