Videos: Cessaro Zeta, Dava, turntables, Alieno, Thrax phono
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So, you think it was better when Cessaro used to use wood horns? They switched some years ago to a synthetic horn material (like a synthetic stone type material I think). Did you have that feeling when you used the Horns.pl horns, which are made by out of fiberglass/epoxy? I have some horns.pl horns (iwata 600) that don't seem to have any coloration at all. I also have some nice wood Tractrix horns, which are slightly warmish sounding compared to a plastic or metal horn. The horns.pl is probably them most neutral of the horns I have.
I´ve got extensive experience with the Autotech JMLC horns from Poland and they´re all free from any plastic coloration
Yeah, I just commented on the two video comparison in one post. For that song I preferred the wood horn. Much more natural sounding.
The thread title is about a system, but when you throw in other videos with the same music, you invite comparisons and I presume comments.
Since there’s not much system information, I simply said the wood horn to distinguish that particular video. The video sound, of course, is the result of the entire system in the room and not necessarily the material of the horn. It could be the cartridge or any other element.
Yes, it’s a lot of videos. I presume Bonzo wants the readers to listen to them all.
Since there’s not much system information, I simply said the wood horn to distinguish that particular video. The video sound, of course, is the result of the entire system in the room and not necessarily the material of the horn. It could be the cartridge or any other element.
Yes, it’s a lot of videos. I presume Bonzo wants the readers to listen to them all.
Yes that is correct I would like to listen to them all and they are all systems that I like.
It would be interesting to know that people are making their own recordings at home and trying to compare. If they sound better than I am sure people will post them
I understand that in the competitive forum world, where only no.1 exists, and there is no space for runners up, some people will prefer videos from Cessaro, some pnoe, some Altec, some Kondo with Euronor. All are sounding considerably better than most stuff where it is difficult to stay in a room beyond 30 mins.
Bill has also got inspired by these videos and mounted his TAD 2001 in a DIY.
I think I personally don’t like when people think horns are not good and it takes 500k five way multi way modern system to make a great horn, so I posted vintage, single driver and three way, all horns. If people think there are alternatives please post them.
I posted a lot of videos of the system sounding great Peter. When Ron says he preferred one, that reply was natural. However I wish you would enjoy the videos and the music rather than trying to drive home the point that Tang’s decision to give up Cessaro and move to Eurodyn was the right one. He is not listening to them.
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Very strange response. This has nothing to do with Tang and I never gave that a thought. Your presumption is preposterous. I simply read through this thread and stopped on one post with a direct comparison because I was intrigued by the violin trill title. I listened and commented. Simple as that. I am not alone in preferring the vintage horn in that one comparison.
I have heard Audioquattr’s system sound excellent in older other videos perhaps with different components and Ron is a huge fan. When I get some time in the next few days, I will listen to more videos on this thread. Thank you for posting them.
Cmon Peter, for a video guy quiet throughout the thread and jumping on one post. Please get back to enjoying music and videos we are all aware of tang’s error.
The trill title is because that sonata by Tartini is called Devil’s trill. It is a famous violin virtuoso piece. Tartini dreamt of a devil playing the violin and named and composed that.
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Yes, I like videos and it was the Devil's Trill that caught my attention, so skimming through the thread, I stopped on that comparison. Surely, one can watch a video comparison and comment. Again, you keep bringing up people who are not here to comment and set the record straight. That is not right.
I will watch and comment on other videos. I did sit through all of the Chaconne thread you started and have thoughts on all the videos but since you inserted one of mine without comment, I thought I should not participate much over there.
That’s not it at all Bonzo, but you already know. I’ll revisit and perhaps comment on them then. Maybe.
Brad, I've been listening to the comparison videos in this thread. I agree with your assessement here and would add this: The Altec system (perhaps not the speakers) homogenizes the sound, the Cessaro system sounded cleaner but lacked presence.
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I prefer the Cessaro based system here. Something about the digital vocals sounds very unnatural.
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I prefer the weight and tone of this Pnoe system. It draws me in. Very nice setting too.
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And considering materials other than wood , given that the crossover frequency of Vitavox CN-191 ‘s being set at 550 Hz handing over to a CN 157 Aluminium alloy horn , being the reason imho , for a slight metallic sheen on Violin , in the higher octaves , a brightness to some leading edges of notes , particularly with higher energy passages of play.
Together with a tendency for notes to not fully flesh out , and then not decay in a convincing manor as per the instrument itself.
This tendency could be alleviated somewhat by the application of dampening material to the outside rear of the CN 157 horn , however a delicate balance , as too much dampening and the horn lost some of its clarity and vitality.
A Marcus Klugg or something similar in timber … would prove somewhat more convincing to the resonant body and string decay of an original instrument .
These considerations are with reference to Violin.
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This is a system video thread about one specific system with a few odd comparison videos thrown in for discussion.
It’s a bit strange that people would bring up a former member and a pair of vintage speakers that no one here owns into the discussion, neither of which has anything to do with Audioquattr’s system. Weird.
It’s a bit strange that people would bring up a former member and a pair of vintage speakers that no one here owns into the discussion, neither of which has anything to do with Audioquattr’s system. Weird.