What do you think of this video

What do you think of this video. And this is not directed to those who think every mobile phone video is trash, thanks. Please listen to the end for the brass and the woodwinds

 

Would say is even more synthetic.

Actually just heard. I like both.

I can see why someone would like the YG more on the violin. The details and inflections are more Nuanced

 

@Tango @Audiophile Bill @the sound of Tao Please tell you what you think about the same recording of track "Tango"? Do you think it has the same synthetic trait as WB system?

Hi Hieukm,

Tbo I am not sure if I understand the term "plasticky" the same way other people said it. On the WB Tango video, I did not pay much attention to tone because I took for granted that it was playing digital. Only when people mentioned it sounded plasticky that I went back and paid attention to it. Then I mentioned the word "synthetic" because I was unsure of the term plasticky. Anyway I think the tone of YG Tango in all instrument not only violin has not enough texture, too slippery smooth, almost glass coated-like and in a sense more synthetic. Where as I actually had no issue with the tone of WB Tango because the degree of glass-coating is not significant enough to distract me. Other positive factors over-shadowed it. That system surprised me.

 

Hi Hieukm,

Tbo I am not sure if I understand the term "plasticky" the same way other people said it. On the WB Tango video, I did not pay much attention to tone because I took for granted that it was playing digital. Only when people mentioned it sounded plasticky that I went back and paid attention to it. Then I mentioned the word "synthetic" because I was unsure of the term plasticky. Anyway I think the tone of YG Tango in all instrument not only violin has not enough texture, too slippery smooth, almost glass coated-like and in a sense more synthetic. Where as I actually had no issue with the tone of WB Tango because the degree of glass-coating is not significant enough to distract me. Other positive factors over-shadowed it. That system surprised me.

Thank you for your always great insight. Here is the WB with 2 more bass trap at the back. Now the intergration and sound is even more seemless.
This system resolution is off the chart due to the expensive cabling. His cables should retail around your speakers or more.

 

Hieukm, did you actually mean always?

 

@Tango @Audiophile Bill @the sound of Tao Please tell you what you think about the same recording of track "Tango"? Do you think it has the same synthetic trait as WB system?

Doesn't work for me...lacks presence and body. There is not a lot of complexity in the violin...

 

Thank you for your always great insight. Here is the WB with 2 more bass trap at the back. Now the intergration and sound is even more seemless.
This system resolution is off the chart due to the expensive cabling. His cables should retail around your speakers or more.

This video instruments are more articulate but it comes at the expense of recording ambient which presented more in the light out video. The additional bass traps seem to clean out ambient info and lost the charm. Listen and compare from 1:06 of both videos. You will hear better than I explain. If I were the owner I would stick the additional two tampons up Ked's arse.

Cable that cost more than my speakers makes my head hurt.

 

Thank you for your always great insight. Here is the WB with 2 more bass trap at the back. Now the intergration and sound is even more seemless.
This system resolution is off the chart due to the expensive cabling. His cables should retail around your speakers or more.

This sounds considerably better to me than the YG setup. Much more harmonic complexity on the violin and overall fullness of the orchestra.

 

Those speakers in that room though!

What are the speaker cables?

 

Those speakers in that room though!

What are the speaker cables?

Speaker cable currently is Nordost Odin 2

 

This video instruments are more articulate but it comes at the expense of recording ambient which presented more in the light out video. The additional bass traps seem to clean out ambient info and lost the charm. Listen and compare from 1:06 of both videos. You will hear better than I explain. If I were the owner I would stick the additional two tampons up Ked's arse.

Cable that cost more than my speakers makes my head hurt.

I agree I preferred 10 to 12 traps on the video

 

Those speakers in that room though!

What are the speaker cables?

If he really likes cables he should try the top crystal speaker cable

 

Previously piega in the WB room used to boom much more.

I tried to find the video on his channel but couldn't, but this one is good. I think that Piega is a good speaker based on this though needs a buffer one

 

This sounds considerably better to me than the YG setup. Much more harmonic complexity on the violin and overall fullness of the orchestra.

Exactly, Brad!!

 

Speaker cable currently is Nordost Odin 2

That might explain some of the synthetic edge. I have always found Nordost very synthetic sounding personally. I have owned Nordost in the past up to Valhalla - not Odin though.

 

I would recommend the owner to include some diffusion in his room and remove the last couple of traps as it has gone a tad dry for my taste.

 

I would recommend the owner to include some diffusion in his room and remove the last couple of traps as it has gone a tad dry for my taste.

I would think the brick walls help matters. I suspect typical drywall sheet rock would be much worse.

Those tube traps seem a middle size in diameter so I wonder what frequencies they are designed to attenuate in the corners. I am also curious about whether or not there has been experimentation with rotation of the reflection strip on the tube traps.

 

I would think the brick walls help matters. I suspect typical drywall sheet rock would be much worse.

Those tube traps seem a middle size in diameter so I wonder what frequencies they are designed to attenuate in the corners. I am also curious about whether or not there has been experimentation with rotation of the reflection strip on the tube traps.

Yes I have brick and concrete walls that help considerably as well as very high and sloping ceilings.

 

Previously piega in the WB room used to boom much more.

I tried to find the video on his channel but couldn't, but this one is good. I think that Piega is a good speaker based on this though needs a buffer one

My ex could play this piece quite well...she was more amazing the more technical the piece got. Romantic pieces she was perfect but lacking a bit of "soul".

 

Yes I have brick and concrete walls that help considerably as well as very high and sloping ceilings.

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Brad - you could make use of that roof by coupling a bass horn to it

 

Brad - you could make use of that roof by coupling a bass horn to it

Oh Yeah....it extends up another 3 meters or so beyond what's in the photo. Overall it starts at the speaker end at about 3-3.5 meters and goes up to at least 7meters at the other end of the room. In my previous listening room (upstairs bedroom now) the speaker end started at just above the speakers to about 5 meters at the listening end. The sound was very good in that room too with no treatment.