Videos - oomph, tympani, menace, power
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Tim, The qualities I hear from the WE video that Brad posted are similar to what I hear from the videos of your system and very few others. This kind of music is a bit of an acid test for system performance. It is not surprising that few people share videos of their systems here. I commend you and others for doing so and also for commenting on the aspects of a system presentation that can be captured on such videos.
Thank you, your point is a good one. At this juncture it is largely about the music for me, as I beleve it is for you. The classical genre is so rich; it is capable of sustaining interest across years. The period(s) and composers I am attracted to -- the apotheosis of orchestral music on a grand scale -- do indeed present challenges for sysrem performance, perhaps the strongest challenge that can be made of a stereo system. I admit my bias -- If a system acquits itself with this music it will do well with virtually any other genre. And from what I see it does not require a complex or exotic system (or even a high expense system) to fulfill the type of music this thread is about.
Dynamic range, frequency range, almost any time signature you can imagine, counterpoint, syncopation, pitch and timbre variation across a panoply of concurrent instruments yield weave and texture that can be intimate or grand in scale. Big orchestral has it all for acoustic music.
Thanks, thats a nice grain free presentation.
Perhaps you can also record the first 3 mins of the 4th movement of this to compare to wils:
San Francisco Symphony - Symphony No. 1 in D Major: IV. Stürmisch bewegt
Listen to Symphony No. 1 in D Major: IV. Stürmisch bewegt on your streaming service
Why do you keep making insinuations, Peter?
A good number of people, including myself, have repeatedly explained their rational reasons why they don't think it makes sense to post system videos (no, we don't need to have that discussion again).
That has nothing to do with "not daring" to do so.
I’m not insinuating anything, Al. I am clearly stating that I am not surprised people don’t post videos of their systems playing this music because it’s extremely difficult to reproduce such music convincingly over an audio system. I commend those who do post videos of their systems playing this music. Kudos to them! This allows the readers of this thread to get a glimpse into these high performance systems. I would like to see more of these videos in this thread, especially of large contemporary systems owned by members.
As I said, you are wrong about the reasons, at least when it comes to a significant number of posters on WBF. And you know it.
Or you should know, had you paid any attention and were you to accept peoples' reasons as they had been discussed many times (this is not the thread to relitigate those reasons).
It’s a video thread. Bring on more videos of this menacing and powerful music. Let’s stay on the topic of this thread. Standing by.
Give it a rest Al and rise above it. Maybe we could have one thread where those who are into the music topic and videos representing it can enjoy that withoust heckling from you and others about your disdain of system videos. Just accept that there are different views.
Also sounds good, not harsh at all, it's a great test track as the bombastic part in your clip is followed by gentle, melodic music that pulls on the heart strings.
Did you use an iPhone?
Here is the Mahler 1st, Mvmnt 4 'Stürmisch bewegt' (stormily agitated).
Mahler uses the same instruction in Symphony 5.
Originally recorded in DSD in 2001 at Davies Hall in San Francisco.
This was released on LP as part of a 22 LP box set - no catalog nbr that I could find.
I am a bit hesitant on the quality of this particular recording on my system and the LP itself but here it is for compare with the others of movemnt 4.
In case you are curious to know what it sounds like (as recorded on a phone) on a 400€ speaker 
Listen to Symphony No. 1 in D Major: IV. Stürmisch bewegt by San Francisco Symphony on Qobuz https://open.qobuz.com/track/96030922
Listen to Symphony No. 1 in D Major: IV. Stürmisch bewegt by San Francisco Symphony on Qobuz https://open.qobuz.com/track/96030922
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After listening to the videos from Tim, Slap Echo and myself of the Mahler 1, beginning movement 4, I'm left thinking it could be a somewhat useful way to gain insight into different systems playing the same recording without actually being in the different rooms in person.
My video sounds a little detached and thin by comparison, and I like the bass foundation evident in the other videos. But in the room, it doesn't sound bass shy. The Tim and SE videos might sound a bit over bass-centric to me, but I bet they sound more balanced in the room.
That being said, (that basically iPhone videos really don't sound good), I do think the videos communicate some relative sonic qualities effectively and so can be useful.
My sound preferences have always been for more incisiveness in the quest to avoid any hint of bass boom. Hearing the other videos though gave me the idea to adjust my sub crossover point subtlety toward more bass. So perhaps, listening to these videos has prompted me to make an improvement and maybe I'll continue to add a little more bass foundation.
On Tim's two recordings of the Mahler, I like the first better than the Tilson-Thomas as it sounds more incisive and balanced to me.
Also, interestingly, I don't hear any artifacts of excessive room interaction in any of these videos which I've been accustomed to hearing in many video threads.
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