Wilson Audio Chronosonic XVX First Impressions

I just spent over six hours today listening to my friend's new Wilson Audio Chronosonic XVX loudspeakers. Consistent with being blown away by the Master Chronosonic + Master Subsonic system at Maier Shadi's demo in Santa Monica, and consistent with a couple of reports by people who auditioned at Maier's both the Master Chronosonic and later the XVX and preferred the XVX, I am here to report officially that I think the XVX is now my favorite conventional cone driver speaker system. I think I prefer the XVX even to my longtime favorite dynamic driver loudspeaker, the mighty Rockport Arrakis.

Prior to the XVX, my friend had the Alexx. The height alone of the XVX over the Alexx affords the system the height and scale and grandeur I always notice and appreciate from very tall loudspeakers.

I don't know why the XVX is an order of magnitude better -- next level better -- than the Alexx. But I am certain that it is.

I think the XVX is the first dynamic driver speaker of which I was very aware that you can hear seemingly almost everything at fairly low listening volumes. It doesn't need to be played loudly to be heard comfortably.

In much the same way that people like to applaud their digital playback systems by saying "it sounds like analog," dynamic driver loudspeaker aficionados like to say their cone speakers have "electrostatic-like transparency." Believe me, if most dynamic driver speakers had "electrostatic-like transparency" we would not need electrostatic speakers.

As somebody who loves electrostatic speakers I have always been aware that speakers of other topologies are one or two steps less transparent than electrostatic speakers. I feel like the XVX truly has "electrostatic-like transparency" -- at least credibly so, and more so than any other cone speaker I've ever heard.

Just like I felt about the Master Chronosonic the XVX gives one the sense of unlimited dynamic capability. There is a limitlessness and an effortlessness to the sound that I do not hear from other box speakers. Other heroically inert box speakers sound tightly wrapped or button-downed by comparison -- like some portion of the sound is trapped in the box and having trouble freeing itself. The XVX sounds open somehow -- a sonic presentation I associate with planar speakers, not with big box speakers.

I know, I know, I know. I am thinking and saying the same things you are: these are meaningless statements as you can't compare loudspeakers in different systems from fault-prone memory; you will never be able to hear an XVX versus a Rockport Arrakis, or an XVX versus a VSA Ultra 11, in the same room with the same associated components at the same time, etc., etc. I know, and I agree with you.

All I am saying is that if you put a gun to my head and told me I had to buy a dynamic driver loudspeaker system for my personal system and cost was not a factor. . . I would say take the gun away from my head. Then I would tell you I will order XVX + Master Subsonics.

Without intending to be coy, I couch this is terms of "the XVX is the box speaker I would I buy if I had to buy a box speaker for myself" rather than "the XVX is the best box speaker I've ever heard," because I cannot hear the Von Schweikert Audio Ultra 11 and the Evolution Acoustics MM7 and the Rockport Arrakis and the YG XV in the same room in the same system as the XVX + Subsonics. So it just does not make any sense to declare, and it is analytically defective to declare, that the XVX is the best speaker I have ever heard.

My view that if I had to buy a box speaker I would buy the XVX + Subsonics is a combination of what I heard from the XVX, what I vaguely remember from hearing these other other speakers in other systems, and my slight prejudice against ceramic drivers which I would be worried I might find uncomfortable over a long period of time. (I would worry the same about beryllium drivers and about diamond encrusted drivers.)

I have owned only planar loudspeakers my entire life. I literally couldn't bear to listen to Wilson Audio speakers with metal dome tweeters. I have never been a big fan of Wilson Audio speakers in general. But I thought I heard magic from Maier's demo of the Master Chronosonic, and my experience today proves that that inkling was correct.

I don't know how or what Daryl Wilson did to achieve it, but I am reporting that to my ears the XVX is a very, very special speaker. It is a stunning achievement in dynamic driver loudspeaker design specifically, and in loudspeaker design in general.

PS: Assuming they physically fit in Michael Fremer's listening room, I have no doubt that Michael will upgrade his Alexx to XVX. He might go in not wanting to upgrade, but after hearing these there is no way he's going to be happy without the XVX.

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Happy New Year!

Ron, would you say the XVX speakers are the best (or perhaps your favorite) box speakers you've heard thus far?

Happy New Year, Ian!

"Best" is impossible to ascertain. Even "favorite" is impossible to ascertain.

To say even "favorite" I would have to hear the XVX and the MM7 and the Arrakis and the Kodo and the Ultra 11 and the Goebel Divin Majestic all in the same room with sympathetic associated components. I have never heard the Kodo or the Majestic or the Ultra 11 outside of an audio show.

Between the Arrakis (heard two or three times) and the XVX (heard three times) in friends' homes I think I now prefer the XVX.

I wish Andy Payor would create an updated Arrakis out of an upright and an inverted Lyra to compare to the XVX.
 
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Happy New Year Ron,

Maybe this year you can cut loss your Gryphon and buy the Wilson instead.

Happy New Year, Tang!

Haha! I don't have any loss on the Gryphon.

For vocals a wide-band ribbon driver in a four column system is still my top design choice. But I have not heard the Pendragons in four years.

Even if Wilson Audio were to offer a direct exchange of my Pendragons -- the only ones in North America as far as I know -- for XVX + Subsonics I still would not accept the offer until I hear the Pendragons again.

If the BG ribbons in the Pendragons have not rusted by now I am confident I will love them.
 
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Happy New Year.

That sounds like an interesting comparison.

Were the electronics the same for both speakers? Did you just swap speaker cables?

No; almost everything is different. They are two completely separate systems in what are effectively two separate rooms.

The owner loves each system for what he feels each system does best. He does not have a consistent favorite.
 
and unfortunately in a somewhat compromised room - the Wilson room sounds much better by itself

There is no doubt about this, and the owner agrees. The Wilson set-up is in a significantly better room and set-up configuration than is the YG room and set-up configuration.
 
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I think the XVX overall has a slightly warm tonal balance. I think the YG Sonja XV Junior overall has a neutral tonal balance. And by "neutral" I do not mean "cool"; I mean just dead neutral.

Also, the XVX simply has a height advantage. I have always felt that scale and sonic "grandeur" is facilitated by tall speakers (Arrakis, MM7, Ultra 11, Kodo, Majestic, Genesis Prime, etc.).
 
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Happy New Year, Tang!

Haha! I don't have any loss on the Gryphon.

For vocals a wide-band ribbon driver in a four column system is still my top design choice. But I have not heard the Pendragons in four years.

Even if Wilson Audio were to offer a direct exchange of my Pendragons -- the only ones in North America as far as I know -- for XVX + Subsonics I still would not accept the offer until I hear the Pendragons again.

If the BG ribbons in the Pendragons have not rusted by now I am confident I will love them.

I have no doubt that ribbons and stats can sound better than any Wilson for vocals as well as other music
 
Happy New Year, Tang!

Haha! I don't have any loss on the Gryphon.

For vocals a wide-band ribbon driver in a four column system is still my top design choice. But I have not heard the Pendragons in four years.

Even if Wilson Audio were to offer a direct exchange of my Pendragons -- the only ones in North America as far as I know -- for XVX + Subsonics I still would not accept the offer until I hear the Pendragons again.

If the BG ribbons in the Pendragons have not rusted by now I am confident I will love them.

You have an excellent amplifier for the XVX :) - I have been listening mostly to the Siegfried II in the XLF and it is a great match. It it was not for my disastrous investment in the big Lamm's that I do not manage to sell at a decent price I would probably be tempted by a nice offer of my Wilson Audio dealer.
 
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You have an excellent amplifier for the XVX :) - I have been listening mostly to the Siegfried II in the XLF and it is a great match. It it was not for my disastrous investment in the big Lamm's that I do not manage to sell at a decent price I would probably be tempted by a nice offer of my Wilson Audio dealer.


I am biased, obviously, as I own VTL, but I think the Siegfried II is a great match with Rockport Arrakis. I, too, am very confident it would be a great match with XVX.

I think the Siegfried II is a great match with many speakers that like power (except MBL, of course).

Andy Payor used to use them. David Wilson used to use them, among other amps. I think Daryl may still use them, among other amps. I don't think you can get much stronger endorsements than that!
 
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Happy New Year Ron. Sounds like you had a good New Year’s Eve. How much of the overall sonic impression you got of these two systems do you think is about the speakers themselves? Do you think the difference in front ends and set up had anything to do with the different sounds?

Happy New Year, Peter!

I'm sure the difference in associated components is responsible for some of the difference in sound. The Wilson speaker certainly is in a better room and positioned in a better configuration than is the YG room and configuration.

But the same audiophile is responsible for the set-up of each system. I think there may be overlap in the phono stages and in the cartridge selections.

I can't prove it to you mathematically, but when an audiophile has an elaborate high-end audio laboratory (two top loudspeaker systems; two rooms; three tape decks; six turntables; several amplifiers) like our friend does, and you have the convenience of being able to play the same tracks back-and-forth and back-and-forth between the two systems -- you just develop a sense of the character of the speakers.
 
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Big McIntosh amps. I think KeithR knows the model number.

I would love to hear our friend's Einstein hybrid on the XVX.
I had the Einstein hybrid integrated and didn’t love the sound. It was rather cold tonally and had no soul...one of my few big disappointments in the last decade. Their OTLs on the right speaker are another matter...
 
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I think I am truly, happily satisfied with this system - but I am eyeing the Burmeister 159s when they come out - just to see if I can hear a difference. If you are ever in the Bay Area after COVID and want to listen, I'd be happy to share, let me know.
Wow four 909s kind of overkill......in a good way. The 159 with their variable output impedance will be quite interesting to help tune the bass response.
 
I think the XVX overall has a slightly warm tonal balance. I think the YG Sonja XV Junior overall has a neutral tonal balance. And by "neutral" I do not mean "cool"; I mean just dead neutral.

Also, the XVX simply has a height advantage. I have always felt that scale and sonic "grandeur" is facilitated by tall speakers (Arrakis, MM7, Ultra 11, Kodo, Genesis Prime, etc.).
You just can’t compare the two systems with the YG is being driving by the Einstein OTL’s. It’s probably the worst amp you could drive a low impedance sealed box speaker with.
 
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