You can contact Martion Audio about the venue nearby the MOC. I don't think it is very expensive.
Or what about Hifideluxe?
Would like to listen to your big speakers, the YTs are quite nice
Munich HighEnd 2024
- Thread starter redandgold
- Start date
Or what about Hifideluxe?
Would like to listen to your big speakers, the YTs are quite nice
Sorry for the OT here, but one question: which preamps were or are these amps used with? Is it possible to use them with highly efficient speakers?
Did you compare the sound of this video to the Toaldac video?
I would expect you can hear the difference in bass and timbre. Check the totaldac room with the same Marcus Miller track for example. The real saxophone too.
On the one hand, I completely understand that. On the other hand, if every manufacturer had this approach, there would be no Munich HighEnd.
Or what about Hifideluxe?
Would like to listen to your big speakers, the YTs are quite nice
Hifi deluxe is may be possible indeed
Thks .
My studers and Telefunken have been completely revised in 2020 by Eternal arts in germany , together with the Eternal arts tape stage they can give Wadax a run for the money as a source
Ps With top Quality tapes only!!
Yes. But that should depend on the room. Those large, hall-like rooms that JMF or Diesis had, for example, could be difficult (although it sounded okay at JMF) and very small rooms too (Destiny). My 2 cents.
The room clarysis had was nice .
FM room is nice too.
From the smaller rooms the one with the symmetrical angled backwall is nice too .
Room 117.
With the indian speaker company / air tight.
Nice speakers nice sound ( for a SET)
RETHM
Probably my favourite SET so far air tight
Attachments
Last edited:
Yes, indeed. Incidentally, I found the sonic presentation a little - well, let me say: minimally - over-emphasised. By that I mean the treble in particular. This would definitely be a system that you could get to sing well and better at home. However, I also missed low bass. But even that could possibly be remedied.
Unfortunately, I haven't listened to the others you mentioned.
I get what you mean
Unfortunately they did nt demonstrate with the added SUB this year
This set up gives you all you want .
Manuel Huber knows his stuff .
Some notes about MOC 2024 rooms:
- room acoustics (both RT time and the room shapes) were not good
- speaker position was not perfect in most rooms just only two or three rooms were ok in this regard
- AC quality was not good and most audio systems were not fully warm-up in first day (morning)
- many rooms played file or streem (not CD) with digital volume control
- the sound level in rooms were not optimised for each music song , the loudness was not enough to load the room
- the bass was not correct in most rooms
I think these problems hide the performance of audio playback systems so most of the time trusted judgment about audio equipments will be hard or even impossible.
Listening to Gobel out of munich was so much better experience than all of MOC rooms.
- room acoustics (both RT time and the room shapes) were not good
- speaker position was not perfect in most rooms just only two or three rooms were ok in this regard
- AC quality was not good and most audio systems were not fully warm-up in first day (morning)
- many rooms played file or streem (not CD) with digital volume control
- the sound level in rooms were not optimised for each music song , the loudness was not enough to load the room
- the bass was not correct in most rooms
I think these problems hide the performance of audio playback systems so most of the time trusted judgment about audio equipments will be hard or even impossible.
Listening to Gobel out of munich was so much better experience than all of MOC rooms.
I don't think this is right about the tube life. The 62B tubes seem to last nearly forever. I had an Ayon Crossfire III with the same tubes and it just runs and runs.
I would consider any speaker under about 92dB to not really be SET material. There are exceptions but few.
I guess it's the DNA that matters most in this case. Also, I always say, when we say we "like" a brands "sound" we mostly like what the designer or the design team likes to hear. Especially with todays material and technology availability, in the end it is how the designer or the design team like to hear the music. Same applies to the room, which I also believe is a very important element of the system chain, depending on especially the speaker's room dependability. So if the same person is setting up the system, natural that the sound signature is the same.. But totally agree, getting same kind of sound from totally different character elements is a success.
Dear Rexp,
Let me make a metaphor; Range Rover make very good cars. People like them, millions sold and loved. Friends have them, have been into them, have driven them. But wouldn't buy one. Just they don't sing to me. That I don't like driving a Range doesn't make them anything else than a wonderful ride.
I am familiar with MBL, they were very active in Turkish market when economy was in a rise and everybody was selling well. Heard them in many occasions. They sound wonderful, but not to me. They sound too harsh to my ears, highs over emphasized. But they create a very good stage, live and correct. So that's a wonderful sounding room for people who love that kind of sound, not me.
I respectfully but emphatically disagree:
It takes 3 seconds.
For my next commercial project ./ model
Standard ferrite drive system /sliced paper cone and
Fancy eliptical voicecoil.
With paper membrane
Both around 7 inch with
foam surround for flatter Fr
In combination with a 11 inch woofer.
Ps but making things more technical complicated / advanced / expensive doesnt automatically result in better sound.
Attachments
Last edited:
Elliot G.
Industry Expert
We dont agree often but I do agree with this. I think Pilium and Soulution are very different sounding. One may prefer the more detailed sound of the Soulution or the warmer more laid back sound of the Pilium however that choice may have to do with the system or the persons preferences.
BTW I listened to both at MOC. I heard the new Soulution 701's with I think the Gauder Speakers? , sorry if thats wrong and Cyril was playing an orchestra and it was excellent and in the Gobel room they were being played with the Pilium big monos and I believe their top preamp as well and I very much enjoyed the result . They are however not the same sound and in this case the difference is something that each and their system should decide which they prefer. My opinion is not important except for me.
Last edited:
Similar threads
 | Steve Williams Site Founder | Site Owner | Administrator |  | Ron Resnick Site Co-Owner | Administrator |  | Julian (The Fixer) Website Build | Marketing Managersing |