A new star in 2019 : Innuos Statement Server

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The upcoming Taiko Audio "SGM Extreme" music server will be launching as an entirely different product. Unlike the Sound Galleries SGM it is not specialised in, nor optimised for, DSD conversion / up sampling. It has been designed for top level bit perfect playback. We call it "Extreme" because it is, it sports a 400 Watt power supply, 2 Xeon class CPU's, all passively cooled, can house multiple network interfaces, multiple DAC interfaces and up to 24 drives for internal music storage. I will leave it at that as I feel it's improper to be posting about it in this thread about the Innuos Statement server.

The perfect MSB Renderer source????

I apologize again for interrupting this thread to implore Emile to start a thread about the SGM Extreme. If this unit is indeed a Roon server committed to an all out assault on bit perfect playback only (i.e., no DSP), utilizes NVMe SSD's and has optionality to select a network only dac interface, this server would be the ideal solution for MSB's Renderer.
 

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I still did not manage to know what databases Innuos rippers use to check the accuracy of the ripped files. Did any one find any information on this subject?
 

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Does anyone know (maybe asiufy) if the Innuos can be seen from a computer connected to the network, as you can see a NAS or a Melco?
 

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Yes, you can see/access the Zenith settings from any computer on your network which includes editing your music library. FYI you cannot play files this way.
 

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All the chatter on this thread is about expensive servers. Has anyone heard the inexpensive Roon Nucleus yet? It sounds promising. If Roon and Linux get together to create something, I get interested.
 

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Yes, you can see/access the Zenith settings from any computer on your network which includes editing your music library. FYI you cannot play files this way.

Yes, but MHO too freely - anyone having access to the network can control your server and copy/erase your files unless you fiddle with the router to block the access to the Innuos port.
 

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Yes, but MHO too freely - anyone having access to the network can control your server and copy/erase your files unless you fiddle with the router to block the access to the Innuos port.
But I suppose the Innuos would have you at his home, so I do not understand the "fear" of accessing him.
 

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But I suppose the Innuos would have you at his home, so I do not understand the "fear" of accessing him.

Sorry, I am not interested in explaining or debating "fears". I referred to a fact - the server is open to anyone using the home network, something I dislike. Each of us has its ideas on security and privacy - I know people who do not have locks on their house doors. :) As always, YMMV.

BTW, you can ask Mike Lavigne to what has happened to his music server some years ago ...
 

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Well, I guess he understood that the word fear was in quotation marks.
Perhaps Innuos could do as Melco, this can be blocked from the screen menu and it is impossible to access it. In fact I have it blocked, because Melco indicates that if it is not going to be accessed, the file sharing is blocked, because a small improvement in the SQ is obtained.
 

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Well, I guess he understood that the word fear was in quotation marks.
Perhaps Innuos could do as Melco, this can be blocked from the screen menu and it is impossible to access it. In fact I have it blocked, because Melco indicates that if it is not going to be accessed, the file sharing is blocked, because a small improvement in the SQ is obtained.

I was told that Innuos will have to address this point soon in the Statement. However what concerns me more is their ripping process.
 

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We all have our comfort levels. Personally, all my assets are protected from hackers, and I have nothing to hide.
 

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BTW, you can ask Mike Lavigne to what has happened to his music server some years ago ...

His *Windows* -based music server, I might add...
 

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His *Windows* -based music server, I might add...

It is a personal preference, but I feel more comfortable with an Windows based server that I has good documentation and gives me all the information I need to manage it myself than with a product that I must beg for information ... :) Do you have an answer to my question concerning ripping? I only keep asking questions because the Statement really sounds good, better than any server I have tried!
 
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We all have our comfort levels. Personally, all my assets are protected from hackers, and I have nothing to hide.

Can I ask how did you protect the Statement?
 

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It is a personal preference, but I feel more comfortable with an Windows based server that I has good documentation and gives me all the information I need to manage it myself than with a product that I must beg for information ... :) Do you have an answer to my question concerning ripping? I only keep asking questions because the Statement really sounds good, better than any server I have tried!

I was just stating a fact. Windows is considered by many to be a less secure operating system by default. That doesn't mean it can't be made more secure.
As far as the information you requested, I've just sent them an email, and I should have an answer soon, and I'll let you know. But asking on a forum is the last thing you should do once you have a question about a product. Dealer first, brand second, forum dead last. Just sayin'...


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I was just stating a fact. Windows is considered by many to be a less secure operating system by default. That doesn't mean it can't be made more secure.
As far as the information you requested, I've just sent them an email, and I should have an answer soon, and I'll let you know. But asking on a forum is the last thing you should do once you have a question about a product. Dealer first, brand second, forum dead last. Just sayin'...


cheers,
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Debating security of operating systems when the object being addressed has no protection at all and is open access is meaningless.

You have a curious view on audio forums and information. IMHO forums are an open space for anyone to ask questions about products and debate it independently of manufacturers or dealers. They are surely welcome to participate and contribute, we thank them for it. For many technical subjects my option is WBF first and dead last. Just my way ...
 

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Francisco,

I was not debating, I was pointing out a fact, Mike's server ran Windows, and Innuos runs Linux. You're the one that brought security into this.
I do agree with you that forums are a great, open space for, among other things, asking questions and getting answers. But I still think, when you buy a product, you deserve better than having to go on a forum to get answers. And I've pointed out that Innuos' support staff would've gladly answered your question by now, if only you asked them. I am sorry you only have WBF, as I consider dealer and brand support extremely important, and paramount to the survival of this industry.

cheers,
Alex
 

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