American Sound, "The Absolute Nothing"
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Lee , the best way to make a small fortune in the audiobizz is to start with a large one 
Well, if these clear advancements are not appreciated by half of the audiophiles, at least those in my group, can they be still considered as clear advancements? Maybe DCS needs to try harder!
Oh, I see DCS has just introduced a new flagship model, I suppose it must have even more clearer advancements no doubt
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The best i have heard DCS over a 22 year span was always with the rossini and its predecessor
Kharma exquisite mini / ARC ref 75 and recently with VTL / wilson
Kharma exquisite mini / ARC ref 75 and recently with VTL / wilson
Then it’s not a proper restoration. It’s a proper modification that some people prefer and others don’t.
Fully agree , a crossover change will completely change the out put / sound character .
Modification and restoration are 2 completely different things .
If you respect the specifications of the original X over components you stay close to the designers intention
It’s the same with stiffening the cabinet and changing the drivers. You’re using parts and assembling something new and often very different from the original intent. That is fine, but be honest with what you are actually doing. You may like the new sound better and that is fine too, but it is not the same as what was.
Anyone with ears can hear which is a good one or a bad one. Yes technically it is a modification. Never heard a good stock one
I agree. If it’s bad it is bad. Not all vintage gear sounds good, but the rare and coveted stuff that has stood the test of time and remains in demand can sound superb. Just like with new stuff. There is good and there is bad. There’s nothing wrong with making a new speaker out of parts. It’s just not accurate to call it a restoration. I’m glad you like the sound of the modified speaker.
The stock ones were usually made for theatres for voice for 500 people not for audio in a room. Or for clubs and concerts
I understand why people enjoy modifying some vintage cabinets and playing with other parts. It's a hobby. I do not know much about it, but I do not see many modifying Bionors, Diatones, Vitavox, Tannoys, WEs. People seem to want those in original, unmodified condition. The Living Voice is something new.
Quite the reverse, there are too many modifying those. There is a guy in London who modifies both Klangfilm and WE. His client is a big architect who has the Euronor Jr. He himself has the Mirrophonic. The Paris Euronor is modded, the guys who are the authority on Klangfilm are in Germany, reach out to them and ask. There are guys everywhere. You need to open your eyes and ears beyond David.
Remember, I asked you if you have any components with electrolytic crossovers in them? From what I read electrolytic capacitors have a fairly long MTBF and may decay over decades, but they have a relatively short shelf life. They are meant to be electrified. If they are not used within a couple years of being made (no electricity) they deteriorate quickly. Since you had your audio system in storage.for several years (7?) you may want to check that out.
No, not when peter is misrepresenting that Tannoys, Bionors, etc are not modded, even though he does not know. You two really need to start reporting what is and what you hear instead of just supporting each other - you can't just call out Ron for tallking his book when you two are talking your group's. Keep this as a hobby without your group agendas.
I did not write that they are not being modified, I wrote that I do not see many being modified as opposed to the many Altecs that are modified. You and I both know I do not know much about this. It is my impression from what I see and read I’m happy to be corrected.
When originals in good condition from these rarer brands sound so good, why modify them? I understand if something is broken, and they need to be restored or modified, but generally, these are very rare and if you find one in good condition, they sound so good, why mess with it?
I understand people are trying to cobble together drivers in cabinets from incomplete samples, but that is different.
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Audiophiles know everything better normally , so thats why.
To me its a bit cheap as well.
If one is so clever why not design your own stuff
That Klangfilm scene was all pretty much started off amongst amateur enthusiast , vintage audio clubs , out in the Far East and Europe … and not looking to make a buck $$$$$$
You and your **** miss the point. You can make your claims but chill the snooty attitude.
I need to? Who says?
David helped me assemble the system I now have which I love and have no intention of changing. I feel fortunate to have met him and to have learned what I have from his vast experience and knowledge.
I am reminded of my childhood buddy, telling his mother to relax: , “Chill out drummer boy!”
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