Breaking news from DCS….
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I am not going to share any numbers on this forum but I can confirm that the first production run of the Wadax Studio player was up front completely sold out.
I do not understand your remark as regards their ‘greatness’. Why would that depend on the behavior of some dealers who might be restricted because of their contracts?
Give the Wadax reference combo a listen under controlled (ie non show) conditions and - even if it in the end is not your cup of tea because you prefer a softer / less transparent sound of for example some tube dacs - you will recognize its ‘greatness’.
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Totally agree. I don’t like the speaker but its issues were never brightness, it was coherence and bass (not quantity of bass, which beginners go for but the quality). It is what I call a boom boom speaker that needs a bam bam amp
I think these kinds of statements would be more valuable if you mentioned the specific Wilson model that you have bass issues with. The Wilson Audio line, like many others, is constantly improving and in my opinion, the bass, midrange and HF driver performance have improved immensely over time. I say that, in part, based on my own experience with the upgrade of my Alexia 2s to Alexia Vs.
Another observation stems from the recording Nick Arroyo and I did of the Texas Guitar Quartet, sonically one of our best efforts. We played that back on Sophia 3s with the metal and it was indeed bright. Later on, we played it on the new CST tweeter and it sounded natural and lifelike again, just like we heard in the two-track recording session.
Another observation involved a listening session with David Solomon from Qobuz at my house. David told me the system (then Alexia 2s) sounded great but the bass lacked the visceral impact of other systems. I had to admit he was right at the time and I went to work on this issue and brought in Jim Smith and we fixed some room acoustics issues and made real strides on placement. The 2s left a visceral impact when we were done. But then I upgraded the to the Vs and it got much more coherent and impactful still. I believe a key factor was the extra volume in the cabinets.
It was certainly doing justice to dCS at Axpona where Quintessence had Wilson XVXs and Dagostino amplifiers. That was my favorite room at the show.
Interesting. Some of the best bass I have heard is in the flagship XVX system at Evolution hifi. I also heard incredible bass at a Florida show with the DAWs. Maybe the variable is setup quality.
American Sound is the Canadian distributor for Wadax, not USA. they are North America for Avantgarde. likely they shared Axpona room costs with dCS.....as they are not a dCS distributor. might be a dCS dealer but it's not listed as a brand they carry on the website.
What I’m hearing through my social network is that she was originally the Wadax distributor for all of North America. As part of her job, she persuaded the Analytical Sound to audition the Wadax dac, which resulted in that “Best digital ever” review. (Mind you - just from 1 guy; valin likes Soulution digital, while Fremer and Heilbrunn like dcs.) The print copies of the analytical sound state her as the distributor of Wadax.
However, shortly after that, the Spanish Wadax guy took away USA distribution from her, so he can sell direct. She still maintains the Canada distribution. But the Canada market is much smaller than USA. Anyone who travels to hear the Avantgarde can hear both Wadax and dcs, but she prefers dcs with Avantgarde but plays wadax with other systems. I wouldn’t be surprised if Heilbrunn and Fremer heard both when they visited her, but are just mum. (I’m sure she will be happy to sell the wadax! Big coin!!!)
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Hi Tima,
Maybe in some cases. But why wasn't he straight forward about Magico Q Series? He called it the greatest speaker ever reviewed. But most people who listened to the Magico Q found it be voiced to accentuate the upper midrange and lower treble. As an expert he should be able to pick something like this up right away.
And, furthermore, if the magico q series was the greatest ever reviewed, why was it discontinued?
What a shame?
1 - I’m very grateful to Wilson, Esoteric, Krell, Sonus Faber, Audio Research, etc….
I grew up in this hobby with this brands and i valore their contribution to this hobby.
I have my current system thanks to this early Hi-End audio brands.
They aren't my preference now, but i respect them from history perspective.
I don't like “hyper-detailed gear like Wilson and Magico” but world doesn't turn around me.
2 - Reviewer is a job as another and audio magazines a bussines like another.
I see it as it is.
I respect them too because they were only way to read about Hi-End audio years ago and now they are fighting to survive in post paper magazine era.
Maybe if you could tell us your job, we could discuss about it from etical perspective as you does.
3 - Are you one of "who spend billions on the music industry and attend live concerts on a regular basis.?"
So what? Anyone put them a gun to buy anything?
Money isn't the key to have knowledge in this hobby.
If someone buys a million dollar system based in a review or a one dealer/show demo isn't Halley problem.
He sells his product, you can buy it or not.
PD: Don’t worry. IA will do soon personal reviews based in your tastes and budget.
A few points.
- I see this industry as it is also and am calling it out - deception and misinformation have been normalized in this industry thanks to the audio journalists.
- Agree that money isn't the key to have knowledge in the hobby, but time is. It takes a long time to obtain many experiences to make good judgments about audio gear. Unfortunately, disinformation and misinformation from the audio journalists doesn't help with the journey
- Not sure why you want to bring up any other industry, as we are talking about the ethics in this industry. There are no "group ethics" or "industry ethics". People who are leaders in this industry, are individuals and make decisions to report or ignore to report. The sum choices of those individuals is the industry information that many consume. It also percolates here to the site, as people are bringing up comments from Worthless to the audio fans adn Malignant to the hobby Harley to justify their decisions and convince others that authorities like him approve of certain gear and they should acquire it because he recommends it...
Heh.
Even if I had a mind to assess Harley's comments on it (which I do not) I have not heard the Magico Q Series so I'm not positioned to do that.
I take your questions as rhetorical. I try to avoid talking in terms of "most people" do this or that. There's already too much hearsay on this forum.
Fully agree good post .
And yes i have heard Q7 Q 5 Q 3 etc.
Look most of these are marketing magazines .
If people are dumb enough to take it so seriously ..
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Problem is a lot of people are lazy , they rather open up a magazine then having to go out and hear stuff for themself.
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I owned Q3s for a couple years and found the tweeter to be hot/bright. Of course, in my room, with my electronics, etc. And that was coming directly from B&W 800D2's tweeter which I also found slightly bright in the same set-up (only changed the speakers). Now that I have Magico M Project in the exact same room/electronics, the brightness is completely gone.
Exactly my view you can read back my posts on this forum
Apparently it was a learning curve for magico to find the right balance .
A good " independant " reviewer should have pointed that out off course