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[caliaripaolo]

Fiddle Faddle,
what awesome feedback you wrote!!!!
Finally, I've installed 5 of Everests on my 2 poseidons.
I confirm Barry & Jazzhead feedbacks on the Everest. It adds some sort of nuance of truth to the music. But, in my system, I needed at least 4 Everests to achieve the outcome. With 5 has been even better.
I've replaced the Apollo SS connected to the negative terminals of my amplifier with a couple of Atlantis, and in this case, the improvement is far greater (not subtle indeed).
I noticed that, I do not know if it depends by other factors or from my memory, but it seems that the system has a continuous improvement even after weeks. Or As Detlof claims: there are physiological as well as psychological variations in our state of being which influence our perceptions.
However, I could settle in to listen some reference tracks, as for example "Violin Concertos Nr1 & 2" played by Salvatore Accardo and London Philarmonic Orchestra.
In the "Campanella" piece I can hear the warmth of the Stradivari's violin as never before.

 

[Barry2013]

Great news paolo.
I put six in to start with and they certainly improved things. Clearly there is a cumulative benefit in greater numbers.
Good to hear that the Atlantis earth cables on the Poseidon made such a difference. On my list.
Off topic, but I put a Phonosophie internal silver fuse in the Vitus SIA 025 amp this afternoon to complement the Phonosophie Gold mains fuse on the power cable. Highly recommend them,
Best wishes
Barry

 

[caliaripaolo]

Great news paolo.
I put six in to start with and they certainly improved things. Clearly there is a cumulative benefit in greater numbers.
Good to hear that the Atlantis earth cables on the Poseidon made such a difference. On my list.
Off topic, but I put a Phonosophie internal silver fuse in the Vitus SIA 025 amp this afternoon to complement the Phonosophie Gold mains fuse on the power cable. Highly recommend them,
Best wishes
Barry

Thank you Barry,
yes indeed, Atlantis Eartha cables connected on the negative output terminals of amplifier make the difference. Reading the feedback from other fellows here, seems which who of them use Atlantis cables on high current driver amplifiers have better outcomes in terms of extended and powerful bass, upper bass and in general, a better definition and improved naturalness of music.

 

[bonzo75]

In case you need another one, this apparently is a 24-96 remaster which i got :
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00005CCAD/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Lloyd, does this have high bass - the LP does have a super piano bass, hence asking

 

[pixie6]

Lloyd, does this have high bass - the LP does have a super piano bass, hence asking

Sorry to barge in but I am curious... how low does your system go?
As a sound engineer who used to do a lot of live piano gigs (mostly jazz) I know how hard it is to "catch" this sort of sound. Pianos have the widest frequency range of all instruments, and it does add a lot of solidity on playback when you reach below 40Hz but few good systems do that properly - I mean without "bloated" low end...

 

[bonzo75]

Sorry to barge in but I am curious... how low does your system go?
As a sound engineer who used to do a lot of live piano gigs (mostly jazz) I know how hard it is to "catch" this sort of sound. Pianos have the widest frequency range of all instruments, and it does add a lot of solidity on playback when you reach below 40Hz but few good systems do that properly - I mean without "bloated" low end...

Well, I go around listening to other people's systems - and a couple of weeks ago heard this on Evolution Acoustics MM7 which goes to like some crazy 10hz or below

But that aside, even on systems that are not deep, this LP shows more weight lower down more than other pianos that I use for audition, like Byron Janis CD of Pictures, or Beethoven Emperor LP, so it might be above 40Hz - it is at the start of the first concerto where Richter comes down heavily. Just wondering if it was an LP recording thing that was done well on digital.

 

[pixie6]

Well, I go around listening to other people's systems - and a couple of weeks ago heard this on Evolution Acoustics MM7 which goes to like some crazy 10hz or below

But that aside, even on systems that are not deep, this LP shows more weight lower down more than other pianos that I use for audition, like Byron Janis CD of Pictures, or Beethoven Emperor LP, so it might be above 40Hz - it is at the start of the first concerto where Richter comes down heavily. Just wondering if it was an LP recording thing that was done well on digital.

Aaaah yes... to be fair, digital wizardry or not (it is often how you use the tool more than what tool you use tbh), this is where a good mixdown reveals itself. It should translate well, even on playback systems that are affordable to the masses and do not offer ultra wide frequency range. There are so many ways to suggest things to our brains that our ears do not actually perceive!

 

[pixie6]

...but a full symphonic orchestra never lies when you are sitting in Royal Albert hall

 

[pixie6]

Well, I go around listening to other people's systems - and a couple of weeks ago heard this on Evolution Acoustics MM7 which goes to like some crazy 10hz or below

But that aside, even on systems that are not deep, this LP shows more weight lower down more than other pianos that I use for audition, like Byron Janis CD of Pictures, or Beethoven Emperor LP, so it might be above 40Hz - it is at the start of the first concerto where Richter comes down heavily. Just wondering if it was an LP recording thing that was done well on digital.

You say you like to listen to other people's systems... have you by any chance heard the Devialet Phantom Gold yet?
Figures indicate it should give a rather impressive depth but I have not heard them yet personally.

 

[bonzo75]

...but a full symphonic orchestra never lies when you are sitting in Royal Albert hall

Easily the worst acoustics for classical in London

 

[bonzo75]

You say you like to listen to other people's systems... have you by any chance heard the Devialet Phantom Gold yet?
Figures indicate it should give a rather impressive depth but I have not heard them yet personally.

I heard the phantom, not sure about the gold. Didn't like it. The KEF LS 50 goes deep too and of somebody wanted to be a non audiophile, have a convenience system, I would rather have that. If I wanted to get into the hobby and spend and have multiple components, I would rather gave something sonically superior to Devialet

 

[LL21]

Lloyd, does this have high bass - the LP does have a super piano bass, hence asking

Hi Bonzo. I am listening to it now...initial impressions on Liszt is the piano does feel 'balanced' across the spectrum in terms of power throughout the register. I feel the orchestra has a balanced spread of sheer power across the full spectrum as well, but i am NOT a particularly big fan of how the first violins were recorded here...more grainy than i would like. I will continue to listen and let you know.

 

[bonzo75]

The LP start is the piano is deep

 

[pixie6]

Easily the worst acoustics for classical in London

Haha yes, you are probably right... and it is even worse for amplified music!
Until they hanged those ovoid things up there, it was near impossible to mix amplified music.
Still, the room is one of the larger spaces I had the chance to work in, and I remember a 100 piece choir with full orchestra there as being something quite stunning.
Not in the sense of "perfect acoustics" but rather for the experience of such direct power and depth.

I have personally somewhat given up the search for the holy graal -for home use- so will definitely give those Kef a try.
I used to have a pair of bookshelves from these guys, despite being cheapos and made in China they do an ok job for the price.

Btw, I have a pair of what possibly are the best speaker stands every built for sale. Not sure if anyone on this forum is interested, but feel free to let me know if that is on your shopping list

 

[LL21]

The LP start is the piano is deep

Yes, i think the CD is a 'solid performer'. I have heard better in terms of piano, but I agree with you it provides a balanced and believable sense of power from the lower registers up through the higher notes.

 

[Fiddle Faddle]

Hi Bonzo. I am listening to it now...initial impressions on Liszt is the piano does feel 'balanced' across the spectrum in terms of power throughout the register. I feel the orchestra has a balanced spread of sheer power across the full spectrum as well, but i am NOT a particularly big fan of how the first violins were recorded here...more grainy than i would like. I will continue to listen and let you know.

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I agree with you as it relates to this recording. Seems to me that the world-class Mercury team were not having one of their best days when these sessions took place. I hear it the same way you do. Mind you, I don't think you can blame the CD format in this case - the LP reissued by Speakers Corner several years ago isn't really much better. Actually I think it is even worse than the CD, possibly due amongst other things to further deterioration of the tapes in the intervening couple of decades between those CD masters being made and the LP being reissued. Though if you have a flaccid-sounding recording to begin with, putting it onto an LP isn't a great idea...

The Russian sessions with Janis are much more focussed and lively sounding so long as the system is graceful in handling an aggressive top-end.

 

[LL21]

Hi Fiddle Faddle,

thanks for your comments...good to hear, as i know from your many detailed listening notes, you certainly aim to listen very carefully!

 

[cyclopse]

Great news paolo.
I put six in to start with and they certainly improved things. Clearly there is a cumulative benefit in greater numbers.
Good to hear that the Atlantis earth cables on the Poseidon made such a difference. On my list.
Off topic, but I put a Phonosophie internal silver fuse in the Vitus SIA 025 amp this afternoon to complement the Phonosophie Gold mains fuse on the power cable. Highly recommend them,
Best wishes
Barry

I have been down a similar route. Replaced the mains plug Phonosphie with Synergistic Black. (Wasn't a gold version though). Recently changed the internal 6.3A Vitus fuse with Synergistic Black also. Agree they do make a clear improvement. I guess more power is flowing through the Vitus boards.

 

[Barry2013]

Thanks cyclopse,
It's good to know that others are experiencing similar benefits from such a relatively simple upgrade. The Phonosophie Silver 6.3 internal fuse on my Vitus 025 has been a really good buy.I am pretty well there for now but I suspect I will be tempted to try a Synergistic Black before too long.
I was a bit sceptical about high end fuses before trying them but the good reports from other WBF members persuaded me to give them a try and I am really glad that I did.
I would certainly recommend others to give them a try.

 

[Fiddle Faddle]

I bought a Synergistic Red for the Rega CD player a few weeks ago and was surprised to hear an improvement (even though I am already an established fan of all power-related improvements past the power point on the wall). The Black I felt was hard to justify given the level of equipment it was going into. I may now buy another Red for the Musical Fidelity amplifier.

I also got my three Entreq K2 knobs on Monday that I have had on order for a few weeks. I am really impressed with them, so thanks again to Cameron at Krispy Audio for being so accommodating with the demo and giving me very good service as per usual. When demoing I was unavoidably limited to only trying one K2 on a component at a time. Now, after the actual purchase of several units, the source and amplification have them at the same time and I am happy to report that it is more of the "good" K2 sound that I like as opposed to my concern that 2 x K2 (or more) might sound more like the Everest. In other words, no that wasn't the case - multiple K2 units preserve the K2 sonic "flavour".

The best thing with the addition of the K2 units is that the bass is now about as perfect as you could possibly expect. Bass control is impeccable and all residual bloat and muddiness has completely disappeared. Recordings now represent the limit - not the system. Even if the K2 did nothing else, just the bass improvements are worth it. It is also the easiest part of the spectrum for a sceptic to hear versus the more subtle midrange and top end improvements.