Entreq Tellus grounding

[ozzzy]

Thanks. I did send an email to Peter but never got a reply. I'll give it another week, then I will contact my CC company.

ozzy

 

[ozzzy]

So I finally received the Russ Andrews unit. It was held up in customs for a week.
Today, I have connected it to my chassis ground's and also tried connecting it to my Entreq units. I can honestly say at least at this short time with it (a few hours) it does nothing.

ozzy

 

[Barry2013]

So I finally received the Russ Andrews unit. It was held up in customs for a week.
Today, I have connected it to my chassis ground's and also tried connecting it to my Entreq units. I can honestly say at least at this short time with it (a few hours) it does nothing.

ozzy

Good to know.
Thank you.
Let us know if it changes though I am not holding my breath!

 

[ozzzy]

Well I'm beginning to like the Russ Andrews unit connected up to my Entreq. I also have a lead going into my Niagara 7000 AC ground.
There does now seem to be a deeper and wider soundstage.

It's funny, first it did nothing then there seemed to be too much sharpness, especially in the upper midrange/treble region. But it does seem to be settling in more and relaxing the sound. More experimenting to come...

ozzy

 

[Cellcbern]

So I finally received the Russ Andrews unit. It was held up in customs for a week.
Today, I have connected it to my chassis ground's and also tried connecting it to my Entreq units. I can honestly say at least at this short time with it (a few hours) it does nothing.

ozzy

How did you connect it to your Entreq units?

Did you try it for signal grounding?

 

[ozzzy]

This is what I posted on Audiogon.

I have my Entreq Silver Tellus connected to the (source) RCA’s to my Lumin X1 and JL CR-1 Crossover. No preamp is used.

The Entreq then is also connected to my very large DIY ground box (pictures on my systems page) which also connects my subs and amps via banana’s

The Russ Andrews unit is connected to my:

1. Niagara 7000 to a DIY AC plug (with just the ground connected).
2. Connected to my Entreq via Banana
3. Connected to my Lumin X1 chassis ground terminal on the separate power supply.

My speakers are connected to a couple of my DIY ground box(s) for speakers.

ozzy

 

[LL21]

Entreq Olympus Infinity T - Positive Feedback

Entreq Olympus Infinity T Ground Box And Entreq Eartha Ground Cables

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[ozzzy]

Yeah I just read the article.

Question:
Has anyone tried daisy chaining a couple of Entreq boxes together? My experience with my Silver Tellus and my DIY box tells me it works good. Increases the benefit.

ozzy

 

[LL21]

Yes, we have. We have 2 Entreq Plutons...each running independently so that each connection has it own dedicated grounding module. HOWEVER, we also have a single Olympus Infinity T module which is connected to the 2 Entreq Pluton binding posts which lead to each of the amplifier monos.

Like what I think you are suggesting, we found it is a supercharge effect and gives you more of everything. We like it and have left it for now as we get to know the Entreq.

Separately, we have also been playing around a little around the edges with a few things (grounding cables, etc)...and once fully and finally settled...then will weigh in with any final thoughts.

 

[dts-99]

Yeah I just read the article.

Question:
Has anyone tried daisy chaining a couple of Entreq boxes together? My experience with my Silver Tellus and my DIY box tells me it works good. Increases the benefit.

ozzy

Entreq has offered two models, Atlantis Minimus and Atlantis Tellus, since day one to supercharge any ground box model, nothing new. I am still using one Atlantis Minimus myself. They may have been discontinued after the born of those T ground boxes.

 

[dts-99]

Entreq Olympus Infinity T - Positive Feedback

Entreq Olympus Infinity T Ground Box And Entreq Eartha Ground Cables

positive-feedback.com

This is the exact same article from Enjoy The Music you posted earlier this month with the exception that the North America distributor has instructed the reviewer to fixed up the ground box model name and retail price.

I believe the reviewer is a total newbie to the Entreq name and he didn't even know what that "T" stands for, so he only referred the demo unit as Olympus Infinity everywhere in the article, rather than Olympus Infinity T.

The reviewer went on to say that the demo unit and the demo ground cable cost more than any individual component in his system. So I guess the cabling he was using will be much less than these amount. I really doubt he has realized the full potential of what the Entreq products can do.

I am sure LL21 and gkg2k did a much better review than him.

 

[Cellcbern]

This is what I posted on Audiogon.

I have my Entreq Silver Tellus connected to the (source) RCA’s to my Lumin X1 and JL CR-1 Crossover. No preamp is used.

The Entreq then is also connected to my very large DIY ground box (pictures on my systems page) which also connects my subs and amps via banana’s

The Russ Andrews unit is connected to my:

1. Niagara 7000 to a DIY AC plug (with just the ground connected).
2. Connected to my Entreq via Banana
3. Connected to my Lumin X1 chassis ground terminal on the separate power supply.

My speakers are connected to a couple of my DIY ground box(s) for speakers.

ozzy

When you say the Russ Andrews unit is connected to your Entreq via banana does that mean from the connector that was designed to link the Russ Andrews "Router" to the copper rod (i.e., you are using the Entreq as the end point instead)?

 

[ozzzy]

The Russ Andrews unit I am using plugs into the wall outlet not to an outside ground rod. I thought connecting it to my Entreq was a good thing, at least initially. Today, I have disconnected that connection and only have the Russ Andrews unit connected to my Lumin X1 ground terminal and into my AudioQuest Niagara 7000 AC (ground only).

ozzy

 

[Cellcbern]

The Russ Andrews unit I am using plugs into the wall outlet not to an outside ground rod. I thought connecting it to my Entreq was a good thing, at least initially. Today, I have disconnected that connection and only have the Russ Andrews unit connected to my Lumin X1 ground terminal and into my AudioQuest Niagara 7000 AC (ground only).

ozzy

Then it is the equivalent of the Puritan Groundmaster City devices which I have shared my experiences with, and cannot be used with your Entreq units. As I've described, I have two units - one for chassis grounding of power conditioner and power supply, and a 2nd for signal grounding of integrated amp and sacd player. As I reported, signal grounding via unused rca inlets resulted in a significant improvement - much more than the chassis grounding.

Note that the Russ Andrews unit should not be plugged into your power conditioner. It will work best if plugged into a different wall socket from the one your power conditioner is plugged into.

What would be interesting to know is how the Russ Andrews unit compares head to head with your Entreq, connected to the same components. Again, based on my experience with the Groundmaster City, I would expect better results from signal grounding via unused rca (or other) connector on your preamp and digital source, than from chassis grounding on any component.

 

[ozzzy]

"Note that the Russ Andrews unit should not be plugged into your power conditioner. It will work best if plugged into a different wall socket from the one your power conditioner is plugged into."

Why do you think that is true?

ozzy

 

[ozzzy]

Oh perhaps you are thinking I am plugging the Russ Andrews unit into my power conditioner?
No, I am plugging the Russ Andres unit straight into the wall outlet and then with an banana to AC adapter I am then plugging the Russ Andrews unit output into one of the AC sockets (ground only) on the power conditioner.

ozzy

 

[mglik]

How effective would it be to just ground my pream?

 

[ozzzy]

I have now decided that the Russ Andrews ground into the Niagara 7000 was not necessary. It actually sounds better without it.
So at this point, I am using the Russ Andrews unit to the chassis of my Lumin X1 power supply and my JL Audio CR-1. Still undecided on its usefulness.

Signal grounds (RCA) are plugged into my Entreq/DIY grounding boxes/

ozzy

 

[Barry2013]

I have now decided that the Russ Andrews ground into the Niagara 7000 was not necessary. It actually sounds better without it.
So at this point, I am using the Russ Andrews unit to the chassis of my Lumin X1 power supply and my JL Audio CR-1. Still undecided on its usefulness.

Signal grounds (RCA) are plugged into my Entreq/DIY grounding boxes/

ozzy

thanks ozzy.
Please keep us posted

 

[HK Panda]

Still waiting for the Pluton and Olympus cables to arrive, stuck in customs. For Pluton placement I only have two options, one, on my rack shelf, but I would have to remove a shelf to have room for it which I don't want to do, or beside the rack on the floor, but because of limited space the Pluton would have to lay on its side. Any reasons I cannot use the Pluton laying on its side?