Fiber vs. Ethernet sonic differences

[jasond]

Haha well this is the only place on the whole Internet where there are people claiming they have a scientific background and create their own "reality" about what sounds best. The funny thing, they even admit they don't even know the products or have ever listened to the product etc.
If you for example head over to the Roon community forum where passionate people try out various measures with pro&cons they you will also read that things improved considerably when using a scenario you are intending to use.

 

[Thieliste]

I own 2 of the new Sonore optical modules Deluxe V2 and i can tell you it does make a difference!
I have a very good Switch in my system but the optical modules improved the sound more than my Switch alone.
I have not compared basic optical modules against my Sonore though.
Like Gunnar on this forum i have found Finisar SFP 1318 to be the best in my system and i own several others like the 1475.

 

[TRHH]

@Thieliste - THX.

Finisar SFP would not be a "good match" - they are not compatible with Cisco.

Thats why I currently have this setup - see below. Maybe their is coming a good Black Friday deal for the Sonore optical modules Deluxe V2

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[Gunnar]

I was also surprised to read the comments on the other Forum. Read it as emotional and not objective as well as lack of an open mind. OK, less spendings but …. Maybe different systems.

True, Cisco does not take the 1318. If you go for an Audiophile converter you will not be able to use singelmode. For me moving from PVC and multimode to singelmode with a glas fibre cable gave a nice further uplift.

No thoughts of replacing the Cisco switch? Etherregen is a good value for money. As always better with an external power supply but could wait.

i can neither comment on a cheap compared to an expensive converter but no question the ADOT have made a clear positive difference. First by itself and then a bit further with the 1318.

 

[TRHH]

No thoughts of replacing the Cisco switch?

No - I am more than happy with the Cisco switch Great value for 220 EURO

 

[TRHH]

True, Cisco does not take the 1318

Right now I am looking at BlueOptics - Compatible Cisco GLC-SX-MMD - BO05C856S5D SFP Transceiver, LC Duplex, 1000Base-SX, Multi-mode, 850nm/850nm, 550 Meter, DDM

Cisco GLC-SX-MMD SFP 1000Base-SX Multi-mode Transceiver

Welcome to CBO - Your manufactuer for optical and copper transmitting solutions for LAN, WAN and MAN networks Cisco GLC-SX-MMD compatible SFP Multi-mode - 1000Base-SX 850nm 550 Meter Transceiver - In stock - 5 years warranty

www.cbo-it.de

with:

LC-LC OM3 1 Meter Multi mode Fiber Duplex Patch cord

Buy BlueOptics SFP, SFP+, QSFP and QSFP28 transceivers, DAC and AOC cables directly from stock. Shipping today. BlueOptics SFP3131EU1MK LC/UPC-LC/UPC Duplex, Multi mode OM3 (G50/125µm), Fiber Patch Cord, Aqua, 1 Meter - 25 years warranty - Lifetime support

www.cbo-it.de

I think it would work with the Sonore optical modules Deluxe V2 - but I am not quit sure

Torben

 

[orange55]

This is my current setup.


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This is my current optical isolation "of-the-self" setup - see below.

Have been looking for a comparison with Sonore Optical Module - but no luck. Would it be wort spending 500€ on a Sonore Optical Module?

What would the best SFP for this setup?

THX
Torben

I would recommend reading this review as SPF can have a big impact on the sound, bigger than some may think until you test them side by side.

Using a Fibre Optic Link for Digital Audio |    The Audio Standard

1. Introduction There are strong arguments for using a fibre optic link in your system for transmitting digital data for audio. In a classic setup, you will typically use ethernet cable

theaudiostandard.net

 

[orange55]

@jasond - THX.

The strange thing is, if you ask in another forum, you do get a complet opposite feedback:

Improving digital streaming with optical isolation

This is my current optical isolation "of-the-self" setup - see below. Have been looking for a comparison with Sonore Optical Module - but no luck. Would it be wort spending 500€ on a Sonore Optical Module? THX and have a nice WE Torben

www.audiosciencereview.com

I can tell you from personal experience the more you can filter the incoming signal the better the linn with sound.

Have you seen this thread? https://www.whatsbestforum.com/thre...e-new-king-of-usb-network-gadget-setup.27758/

 

[Drikus]

This is my current setup.


View attachment 100299
This is my current optical isolation "of-the-self" setup - see below.

Have been looking for a comparison with Sonore Optical Module - but no luck. Would it be wort spending 500€ on a Sonore Optical Module?

What would the best SFP for this setup?

THX
Torben

I'm using 2 Startech SFP1000ZXST, 1 in my Cisco switch and 1 in my Startech ET91000SFP2 FMC. Mind you, they are single mode, not multimode like you're using now so your cable won't work with these SFP's.

 

[TRHH]

single mode

@Drikus - THX But does single mode work with Sonore Optical Module Deluxe II?

 

[Drikus]

@Drikus - THX But does single mode work with Sonore Optical Module Deluxe II?

No idea, better contact them about this.

 

[TRHH]

@Drikus - @orange55 - @Gunnar - Do you prefer single mode SFP? Is there a different to multi-mode?

And what are you using as FMC?

THX

Torben

 

[Drikus]

@Drikus - @orange55 - @Gunnar - Do you prefer single mode SFP? Is there a different to multi-mode?

And what are you using as FMC?

THX

Torben

Yes and yes.

This one: Startech ET91000SFP2

It's powered by the second output of my JCAT Optimo 3 Duo power supply (12v).

 

[Gunnar]

@Drikus - @orange55 - @Gunnar - Do you prefer single mode SFP? Is there a different to multi-mode?

And what are you using as FMC?

THX

Torben

Stupid question maybe but what is a FMC?

 

[MarkusBarkus]

Fiber Media Converter.

 

[orange55]

@Drikus - @orange55 - @Gunnar - Do you prefer single mode SFP? Is there a different to multi-mode?

And what are you using as FMC?

THX

Torben

In my testing this is the best Sfp which has cable attached. I believe it is multi mode, but it wiped the floor of the single modes.
Finisar FCBG110SD1C03 AOC
It also gets great reviews here https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/...ch-group-buy-for-audiophilestylecom/#comments

I purchased it from here: https://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail...L3HgZpizBqQ==&countryCode=GB&currencyCode=GBP

 

[orange55]

@Drikus - @orange55 - @Gunnar - Do you prefer single mode SFP? Is there a different to multi-mode?

And what are you using as FMC?

THX

Torben

Forgot to app, I am using it between two SoTM network switches.

 

[TRHH]

In my testing this is the best Sfp which has cable attached. I believe it is multi mode, but it wiped the floor of the single modes.
Finisar FCBG110SD1C03 AOC
It also gets great reviews here https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/...ch-group-buy-for-audiophilestylecom/#comments

I purchased it from here: https://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail...L3HgZpizBqQ==&countryCode=GB&currencyCode=GBP

THX - But I have been told it would not work with a Cisco switch - in my case Cisco Meraki Go 8 Port Switch (GS110-8-HW-EU).

Any suggestions for an alternative SFP?

Torben

 

[Gunnar]

@Drikus - @orange55 - @Gunnar - Do you prefer single mode SFP? Is there a different to multi-mode?

And what are you using as FMC?

THX

Torben

My FMC is a Melco ADOT powered by Farad Super3.

I started with what ADOT was delivered with. Multimode transceivers and a standard optic cable. A clear improvement from not using a converter.

Then I bought new transceivers. I use now Finisar 1318 and a glass fibre singelmode cable from Phoenix. Yes that improved the sound even further. Clearer and cleaner.

Sounds strange, at least for me, that different transceivers sounds different……. Fortunately they are not expensive. So possible to try different ones.

Gunnar

 

[Drikus]

This ADOT FMC is nothing more than a rebadged 10Gtek one it seems…