How big is your room? W' x L' x H'
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app. 28'wX41'l w/ sloping ceilings 12' up to 16' w/a clerestory above that up to 20'. This main listening/living room has a rear wall w/ a18'wide x 11' tall opening leading into the rest of the house which is 33w' X 58'deep. Bass frequencies can really unfold & we for sure do not need a whole house music system. Granted it's huge w/ really good acoustics, a bit like a small chamber music venue. I design & built the house expressly for music. The system has big speakers & lots of amps to drive it. The room truly "plays" when asked to.
Dre, the room is much different & improved since your last visit. As you already know there has been some equipment upgrades as well.
Self built Dedicated Media room 22.5' x 33.5' x 8', room built within a room, 2 x 4 construction, mass loaded vinyl attached to wall studs/ ceiling/ & floors, resilient channel & sound isolation clips used to attach drywall to studs. Green Glue used on drywall seams.
Yter Flexum acoustic panels ,ASC tube traps & panels, RPG diffusers (ceiling), Core Audio Designs diffusers & Vicoustic corner traps. Other assorted acoustic panels. Final tuning done with the help of HD Acoustics /Jeff Hedbeck.
Just wish I had taller ceilings, but works well with the treatments.
Gary
Self built Dedicated Media room 22.5' x 33.5' x 8', room built within a room, 2 x 4 construction, mass loaded vinyl attached to wall studs/ ceiling/ & floors, resilient channel & sound isolation clips used to attach drywall to studs. Green Glue used on drywall seams.
Yter Flexum acoustic panels ,ASC tube traps & panels, RPG diffusers (ceiling), Core Audio Designs diffusers & Vicoustic corner traps. Other assorted acoustic panels. Final tuning done with the help of HD Acoustics /Jeff Hedbeck.
Just wish I had taller ceilings, but works well with the treatments.
Gary
Philip O Hanlon
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We've been in this house in San Juan Capistrano for approx 19 years. We have experimented with different speaker positions over the years but are satisfied with where we ended up, sitting a foot away from the rear glass wall. As a result the there is 26' behind the speakers, the speaker position is quite asymmetrical, the RHS speaker is 5" in front of the L speaker, but the speakers are perfectly in phase. To check this we play a SonoruS 5.1 15ips 2 track tape that originated from a multichannel DVD-Audio or SACD and mixed in the analogue domain back to 2 channel. The result is that you have a sound-stage that completely envelopes you; on Kraftwerk's "Maximum Minimum" you get the crowd noise behind your head.
There is no room treatment; we have useable bass measured down to 12Hz with the Giya G1. On the ground floor the room measures 40 long by 31 wide by 23' high. On the upper storey, there is a open dinning room that over looks the great room. So I guess it must be approx. 60' x 31' on the second level, including the balcony.
With smaller speakers such as the Avalon Eidolon, we reverse the speakers & listening room, using the glass wall for some bass reinforcement. Back in the day when we were distributing Halcro, we used to borrow different speakers every year for CES, so we had a chance to listen to some fabulous speakers for a couple of months, while they broke in, such as WIlson MAXX, Focal Utopia, Eggleston Savoy... The best $$ value were probably the CAR T3.1 horn speakers, while colored, remarkably fast & a huge amount of fun.
There is no room treatment; we have useable bass measured down to 12Hz with the Giya G1. On the ground floor the room measures 40 long by 31 wide by 23' high. On the upper storey, there is a open dinning room that over looks the great room. So I guess it must be approx. 60' x 31' on the second level, including the balcony.
With smaller speakers such as the Avalon Eidolon, we reverse the speakers & listening room, using the glass wall for some bass reinforcement. Back in the day when we were distributing Halcro, we used to borrow different speakers every year for CES, so we had a chance to listen to some fabulous speakers for a couple of months, while they broke in, such as WIlson MAXX, Focal Utopia, Eggleston Savoy... The best $$ value were probably the CAR T3.1 horn speakers, while colored, remarkably fast & a huge amount of fun.
Steve williams
Site Founder, Site Owner, Administrator
Truly a room for all of us to marvel at Philip. Having heard it I can say that it is very special
Philip, your room is positively gorgeous!
Can you drill a couple of holes in the floor to route that wire into the basement instead of laying on the floor as it crosses the room?
Can you drill a couple of holes in the floor to route that wire into the basement instead of laying on the floor as it crosses the room?
Steve williams
Site Founder, Site Owner, Administrator
I will try to get some pictures up later.
My room is large volume wise as I have 17' ceilings. Speakers are on the long wall which is 25' and they fire across the room which is 16' wide. My listening position is ~2' from the rear wall and speakers are ~3ft from the rear wall.
Beau
My room is large volume wise as I have 17' ceilings. Speakers are on the long wall which is 25' and they fire across the room which is 16' wide. My listening position is ~2' from the rear wall and speakers are ~3ft from the rear wall.
Beau
Philip O Hanlon
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Gary,
Steve is right, no basements in California. Its also a part of the job that I need to change cable sets from time to time, so laying the cable under the carpet would be problematic. I agree the cable is an eye-sore.
Purposed built media room designed by Acoustic Frontiers consists of an isolated wall system with Kinetics IsoMax clips and 25mm hat channel attached to furring strips nailed to CBS walls. Soundboard XP damped drywall is attached to the hat channel and ceiling joists. Acoustic sealant applied in the areas between the top, bottom, corner areas of the damped drywall.
The A/V electronics are served by a dedicated 100A electrical sub-panel with (4) 20A circuits. Twisted pair wiring (#12) is used for each circuit with the neutral and hot wires wrapped together on 2" centers and the ground wire placed parallel in PVC conduit.
The finished room dimensions are 19'-6 1/2"L x 15'-3 3/8"W x 11'H.
The room currently has RPG BAD ceiling acoustic "clouds" and floor panels at the front wall and front right side wall early reflection points. I'm preparing to have Acoustic Frontiers measure the room and recommend specific wall acoustic treatment & locations.
The A/V electronics are served by a dedicated 100A electrical sub-panel with (4) 20A circuits. Twisted pair wiring (#12) is used for each circuit with the neutral and hot wires wrapped together on 2" centers and the ground wire placed parallel in PVC conduit.
The finished room dimensions are 19'-6 1/2"L x 15'-3 3/8"W x 11'H.
The room currently has RPG BAD ceiling acoustic "clouds" and floor panels at the front wall and front right side wall early reflection points. I'm preparing to have Acoustic Frontiers measure the room and recommend specific wall acoustic treatment & locations.
I never knew that!
I know Frank Lloyd Wright hated basements, saying that you don't need anything that you might keep there. I would be lost without my subterranean "warehouse"
Philip,
Even if it's slab on grade, cut a couple of slits (1 to 2"" should do it) in the carpet at each end with an exacto knife or box cutter, buy a "snake" from the hardware store, fish it through, tie the wire to one end of the snake, and pull it through to the other hole.
Then put a nice looking area rug (that compliments the carpet) with padding under the area rug over the area where the wire is to prevent damage. Your done.
Just a thought.
Even if it's slab on grade, cut a couple of slits (1 to 2"" should do it) in the carpet at each end with an exacto knife or box cutter, buy a "snake" from the hardware store, fish it through, tie the wire to one end of the snake, and pull it through to the other hole.
Then put a nice looking area rug (that compliments the carpet) with padding under the area rug over the area where the wire is to prevent damage. Your done.
Just a thought.
Basements are often for insulation in cold weather climates...it creates an insulated space so that the ground floor temperature is more moderate. If you've ever been in a house with a groundfloor addition that has no basement underneath it...the floor in the addition can be FREEZING in wintertime, even with the heat on.
My house luckily has a full basement/warehouse, which is great for running wires and stuff.
Remember guys, the homes in California are made from wood, chicken wire and paper. Or something like that
Which is why they fetch the money that they do.
IF they had basements...that would a VERY PRICEY proposition.
Which is why they fetch the money that they do.
IF they had basements...that would a VERY PRICEY proposition.
Just saw this now. My room measures 18'W x 23'L x 10'H. I thought it was big in 1989 when I built the house, but soon after I wish it were bigger.
Present day Maggie 2.7QR and ARC VS115 amp:
Mid 90s set up B&W Matrix800 with Jadis JA200 mono amps:
Present day Maggie 2.7QR and ARC VS115 amp:
Mid 90s set up B&W Matrix800 with Jadis JA200 mono amps:
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Thanks for contributing John, Sharp 1080, Beau, Len and Phil.
Dre
