Legendary Supex 900 Super: Koetsu before Koetsu

[audiobomber]

In case anyone wants to try a Supex, mine is listed on Canuck Audio. Note that the listed price is $400 Canadian, i.e. $300 US.

Supex SD900 Mk-IV

Legendary Supex SD900 Mk-IV low output moving coil. I wasn't sure how to describe the condition in the drop-down menu. The body is in excellent condition. As shown in the photo, the stylus has very little wear. I believe the suspension has dried out, which has impacted the sound quality, but not...

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[christensenleif@msn.com]

+ 1.
the new cartridges are just overpriced. They didn't reinvent the wheel.
i like to listen to my lyra clavis d.c, ortofon vero/vienna, linn karma(supex)kiseki blue(old version),audio technica art 1 and fr1 mk3f. listening to music is a lot of fun with every cartridge.all with good step up transformer

I just recent got hold of an original Kiseki Blue longbody that I had retipped with Namiki microridge and a boron cantilever at Aidas in Lithuania
the suspension and magnet assy is original
it´s a gem and the sweetest thing on classical, but not shelved like a Koetsu....Aidas did a fantastic job.....sounds like a refined DaVa Reference.....really curious about the new DaVa Soul
highly recommended

 

[christensenleif@msn.com]

that Supex is on it´s way to Norway......

 

[christensenleif@msn.com]

so I´ll swap Kiseki, Supex and Rowland in Ikeda....they all are a good match, and the VTA is done in a sec with the FR B-60 VTA base

 

[DasguteOhr]

I just recent got hold of an original Kiseki Blue longbody that I had retipped with Namiki microridge and a boron cantilever at Aidas in Lithuania
the suspension and magnet assy is original
it´s a gem and the sweetest thing on classical, but not shelved like a Koetsu....Aidas did a fantastic job.....sounds like a refined DaVa Reference.....really curious about the new DaVa Soul
highly recommended

You must hear the Agaat from Kiseki,after that you don't waste more thoughts koetsu.
Sold pity a bargain

Kiseki KISEKI AGAAT - B, BLACK LOW OUTPUT MOVING COIL PHONO CARTRIDGE (4237512527) | Second-hand device | Pick-up MC | Offer on audio-markt.de

Offered is „KISEKI AGAAT - B, BLACK LOW OUTPUT MOVING COIL PHONO CARTRIDGE“ by Kiseki as second-hand device from the category „Pick-up MC“ on audio-markt.de - the online market place for high-end. The advert with the number 4237512527 ends on 04.01.2024 at 12:08 o'clock.

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[audiobomber]

so I´ll swap Kiseki, Supex and Rowland in Ikeda....they all are a good match, and the VTA is done in a sec with the FR B-60 VTA base

The trouble with swapping the Supex in and out is that the pins are smaller diameter than any other body I've used. Squeezing the clips on an arm with integral headshell is no big deal but expanding them again is scary.

that Supex is on it´s way to Norway......

I am emotionally attached to that cartridge Leif. I'll be interested to hear how it goes.

 

[christensenleif@msn.com]

It´ll go in it´s own Ikeda headshell, so no worries

 

[christensenleif@msn.com]

You must hear the Agaat from Kiseki,after that you don't waste more thoughts koetsu.
Sold pity a bargain

Kiseki KISEKI AGAAT - B, BLACK LOW OUTPUT MOVING COIL PHONO CARTRIDGE (4237512527) | Second-hand device | Pick-up MC | Offer on audio-markt.de

Offered is „KISEKI AGAAT - B, BLACK LOW OUTPUT MOVING COIL PHONO CARTRIDGE“ by Kiseki as second-hand device from the category „Pick-up MC“ on audio-markt.de - the online market place for high-end. The advert with the number 4237512527 ends on 04.01.2024 at 12:08 o'clock.

www.audio-markt.de

yes I know, but they´re priced out of the sky now......they also had the Lapis Lazulu
were quite a few here in Norway

 

[DasguteOhr]

yes I know, but they´re priced out of the sky now......they also had the Lapis Lazulu
were quite a few here in Norway

The old kiseki from the 80s are rare and really expensive. Van den Dungen was Koetsu importer in Europe. He founded Kiseki only because Koetsu had quality problems at the time. To this day no one knows who made kisekis. some say kondo san built them because he also built kiseki suts. a secret to this day.
P.S the new have not the charme of old ones

 

[christensenleif@msn.com]

I knew and found an old longbody

 

[Lynnot]

This is the identical one I used to have long ago. To be precise, as shown on this spec sheet, it was a SD 900/E+ Super. After this cart I had another Supex - the SDX 1000. Not sure if it was also a Sugano design. It had a boron cantilever. The body was rounder and more petite. Anyone remember it?

Yes, I remember it very well. Here in Europe we knew it under a different name: Linn Asak.

 

[Lynnot]

I knew and found an old longbody

Something like this ....

 

[christensenleif@msn.com]

@audiobomber got it today and installed already in IKEDA IT407 silver in IKEDA headshell
sounds slightly mellower than Aidas retipped Kiseki, but need some more VTA tweaking
very nice tone and good dynamics into Parmeko 6000/31 1:40 vintage SUT, same as I prefer for Rowland Complement and Kiseki
cannot detect any symptoms of ruined/hardened suspension @VTF 2g

 

[foxtan]

Supex 900 Super was my first MC cartridge in 80''s, After all these years, I still have SD-900Super, SD-909, SD-900E(Wood body), SDX-1100R, SD-700Type IIE, owned and sold are SD-909Mk2, SDX-1000, SDX-3000, SD-801, SD-301, SD-700A.........

The SD-909 is mounted on SAEC WE-506/30 most of the time for pop music, I will swap the SAEC to Ikeda IT-407 this weekend, and switch my Van Den Hul Black Beauty to Crimson XGW Master Signature on the Audiocraft AC-4400, because the VDH BB haev been used for a decade, although it still playing music well, it is the time to have it retip and check up before it broken down suddenly.......

 

[godofwealth]

Sweet. Nice to pick up a hardly used Supex.

Can you please explain how you can hook up 8 cartridges?
There are only 5 inputs.

Keep in mind you can connect both balanced and single ended on each input and switch between them on the Makua preamp. It’s a matrix structure. Any input can be made into phono, except I think input 6 that is dedicated to Roon.

 

[AudioHR]

Supex 900 Super was my first MC cartridge in 80''s, After all these years, I still have SD-900Super, SD-909, SD-900E(Wood body), SDX-1100R, SD-700Type IIE, owned and sold are SD-909Mk2, SDX-1000, SDX-3000, SD-801, SD-301, SD-700A.........

The SD-909 is mounted on SAEC WE-506/30 most of the time for pop music, I will swap the SAEC to Ikeda IT-407 this weekend, and switch my Van Den Hul Black Beauty to Crimson XGW Master Signature on the Audiocraft AC-4400, because the VDH BB haev been used for a decade, although it still playing music well, it is the time to have it retip and check up before it broken down suddenly.......

Mine too!

 

[godofwealth]

Listening to the Supex mounted on a Technics EPA-100 tonearm with ruby bearings with a Technics SP-10 Mk2 table. I’m blown away by good the Supex 900 is. It’s as good as my 10x as expensive Onyx Platinum. Sad it’s not available except by luck. This is the record I’m listening to now.

 

[mtemur]

Listening to the Supex mounted on a Technics EPA-100 tonearm with ruby bearings with a Technics SP-10 Mk2 table. I’m blown away by good the Supex 900 is. It’s as good as my 10x as expensive Onyx Platinum. Sad it’s not available except by luck. This is the record I’m listening to now.

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I’m glad you’re enjoying your setup. I would like to remind you that the record you shared is cut from Cd just like most waxtime reissues. I recommend all analog craft reissue of this record.

 

[Edison Spina]

I have a non-used SUPEX SD-900 E+ Super. I would like to know more about it. It is very difficult to find something like it out there. Here are the files.

 

[christensenleif@msn.com]

update on my Supex SD900 mkIV I got from @audiobomber :
got same job done as with my Kiseki Blue longbody; retipped with boron cant and Namiki Microridge needle by Aidas....fantastic result and intact tone as original, but much better resolution
after some time in Ikeda IT407 I moved it over in my Dynavector DV-505 on the DD MicroSeiki DDX-1500.....the arm cart match was obviously better from the start
however I missed the middle cw for the subarm and used the heaviest one and felt it was not optimal
yesterday I got a new middle 22g cw from Dynavector and the improvement in clarity and bass was very substantial
the Supex compliance seems to better match with the lighter DV-505
I´m not sure people are aware of how well some of theese vintage mc´s from the golden era holds up against todays overpriced carts.....