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No of course it's not incompatible. I am just saying be clear and honest of objectives.

The advantage of buying from small manufacturers is there is low to zero distribution and marketing margin being paid for, so you know exactly what the cost is going into, and it's bespoke. They can use a lot of quality drivers, for example, that the bigger manufacturer cannot use because he needs a current production component with lots of volume and warranty to produce many consistent units and service many customers. This is a valid concern for the manufacturer, but not for the end user

Also, like Caesar mentioned, you are either a Wilson lover or not already, before you get to the WAMM. So if you think the XLF is better than a vintage tannoy, it will be very difficult to convince you that vintage tannoy is better than the WAMM. The opposite will be true too.
This holds true only if the person is an Ideologue to a specific brand . No reasonable person will hear better and denounce it ..
 

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Yes, several drills in the floor, like one more WBF Wilson Audio owner I envy on this aspect ;) , as I hate seeing cables. Besides the cables were not Transparent Audio, other brands are also used by WAMM onwers.
That's what we did...underfloor trunking.
 
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Let me help you out. Wilson introduced a dome tweeter to their smaller and lower costing speakers. These sold extremely well, and ushered in a new Wilson sound. Eventually the top of the line Wilson’s received a dome tweeter (modified.) And thus you understand that is is much easier and more practical to trickle up innovation and trickle down.

Lastly I’ll help you understand something about engineering. It takes much greater skill and ingenuity to create innovation at a specific price point than cost no object. Example: Atlas vs Dragon.
I’ve no real knowledge about Wilson...I thought they used silk domes?

Of course it takes far greater skill and ingenuity to innovate on a tight budget....which is exactly why most firms don’t Try. Take cars....how many new innovations are first introduced on the budget models? None....because apart from anything else all that would do is to obsolete the superior models. Similarly, how many TV manufacturers introduce their latest screen technologies at the budget end of their business? Again none. Computers using the latest CPU chips? None. Instrument manufacturers? The same..... and the reason why is always the same. Its because its only the upper end of their markets that are prepared to play serious money to have the latest innovations.....the best sound, the safest or fastest cars with the latest gadgets, the brightest and most natural TV pictures, the fastest PCs, the most sensitive instruments. As the new technology trickles down into more cost effective forms it keeps the low end of the product offering competitive, as the development costs have already been recovered.
 
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Audiophile Bill

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Is this a good sounding setup Bill ..? Looks hodge podge to me , just saying ...!
Ha. This is a very famous setup in Italy custom made and meticulously designed by Yamamura himself who spent considerable time on sight. I think even custom code was written for the crossovers etc.

Our very good colleague, Gian of WBF, can tell you all about it. There is a thread on here with all the details should you be interested.
 
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I’ve no real knowledge about Wilson...I thought they used silk domes?

Of course it takes far greater skill and ingenuity to innovate on a tight budget....which is exactly why most firms don’t Try. Take cars....how many new innovations are first introduced on the budget models? None....because apart from anything else all that would do is to obsolete the superior models. Similarly, how many TV manufacturers introduce their latest screen technologies at the budget end of their business? Again none. Computers using the latest CPU chips? None. Instrument manufacturers? The same..... and the reason why is always the same. Its because its only the upper end of their markets that are prepared to play serious money to have the latest innovations.....the best sound, the safest or fastest cars with the latest gadgets, the brightest and most natural TV pictures, the fastest PCs, the most sensitive instruments. As the new technology trickles down into more cost effective forms it keeps the low end of the product offering competitive, as the development costs have already been recovered.

Actually, its the opposite IMO, its much easier when targets , expectations and budgets are set vs wide open wallet sky is the limit type approach.

Getting improvements over already present tried and true top Tier products is a big task , its why the performance bar seems to have moved very little vs past top tier products from decades ago ..


Just saying ...!
 
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Duke LeJeune

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This is one of the friendliest hobbies I know of... I keep repeating this, the social side of this hobby is the greatest, way beyond the equipment.
Excellent point, and that has been my experience as well.

On a related note...

I have been involved in other industries and other hobbies and my observation is that in general audiophiles are unusually good people. My wife, who comes from a different background, has noticed the same thing. My current theory is, listening to music deeply makes it easier for a person to "hear" that inner voice which in one way or another invites us to do good. Sort of like lazy man's meditation. To put it another way: Music soothes the savage beast, and audiophiles have subjected themselves to a lot of music.

So if Magico and Wilson and such can help get more of this world's top movers and shakers listening deeply to music, such that it can begin to work its magic, well that just might not be a bad thing.
 

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Never seen anything like this

 

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PeterA

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Never seen anything like this

Never took you for being so understated. Thank you for posting this image. That is incredible. It took me a long time to figure out what I was looking at. It’ll be nice as more details start rolling out about this design.
 
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This is just ART
 

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Never took you for being so understated. Thank you for posting this image. That is incredible. It took me a long time to figure out what I was looking at. It’ll be nice as more details start rolling out about this design.
What is that tube behind the midrange or tweeter ? Is it some kind of tube loading? Like a Vivid speaker?
 
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What is that tube behind the midrange or tweeter ? Is it some kind of tube loading? Like a Vivid speaker?
Magico says "Magico M9 Inverse Horn Cavity"
 

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