Why would u use the NAS as a core? Noisy environment. Bad plan.
Get a Nucleus+ and use that as the Roon core to start with. I'm sure the SGM ,when Roon ready, will ultimately be the way to go for u with the MSB v2 renderer.
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Why would u use the NAS as a core? Noisy environment. Bad plan.
Get a Nucleus+ and use that as the Roon core to start with. I'm sure the SGM ,when Roon ready, will ultimately be the way to go for u with the MSB v2 renderer.
The theory goes USB << ethernet direct to I2S for lots of reasons. Better clocking (close to DAC), less noise (packet mess), and grounding are a few. The proof is in the pudding. Looking forward to mine arriving.
Hmm.. Have you tried a similar setup with an MSB DAC w/ Renderer input? I did.
Nucleus can't handle my collection, and will likely balk at Mike's. It is completely underpowered. Sorry.
As I said above, a dedicated server next to the NAS, like the Innuos (or the Nucleus, if you must), would add complexity but could prove to be better. I just advised Mike to try both ways, server+NAS or NAS directly.
The SGM is already Roon Ready. Again, I did suggest Mike try both, Roon Core on NAS and Roon Core on SGM, and pick the winner the way he's always done, by listening.
The DAC is not physically bound to a transport, like it traditionally is via SPDIF, Coax or even USB. Network changes everything, that's why I suggested Mike try different things, which is what I've been doing.
The SGM might as well sound better than a NAS in the end, but this certainly is not a given, like it is with USB.
Mike,
I have been looking at these units to feed my new MSB Renderer that are optimized as roon cores and low noise but also have ethernet isolation. This isolation, low noise environment and roon horsepower/optimization seem like the perfect solution for the MSB Renderer.
http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?24608-Suggestions-SOTA-Ethernet-Server-for-a-DAC-Renderer&highlight=sota
The newest Innuos Statement and Antipodes CX have my attention.
From Antipodes:
From Innuos:
I know this is not what a "big bad dealer" would do, but I'd suggest to start with the two little devices I recommended above ($200 each), before putting a lot of money on a beefy server for network use. As long as the NAS is elsewhere in the house, not in the same circuit as your system (like at Mike's or here in the store) it should sound pretty good.
Just sayin'...
Just sayin'...
at the end of the day, i'm expecting that the SGM, and especially the Evo spec upgraded SGM, will take things the furthest with the renderer. but I will give alternatives their opportunity. i want to make sure the alternatives have a fair chance. the question is will 'band aiding' the NAS take it far enough? or will a powerful booster box as my son suggests give it a better chance. and maybe the power supplies of any booster box need to be switched to LPS's. i know i'm out of my depth here, but if the NAS is marginal in it's power (as my son surmises) then what will i learn from trying it?
or maybe i should just not worry about it and just stick with the SGM and move along. hard to imagine any other device can compete with the SGM as a Roon core host. they can just approach it somewhat.
i'm somewhere between 17 and 19 Tb (12,000 albums), but i have lots of high rez including a few hundred each of dxd and Quad dsd albums which eat space big time.......and need lots of speed.
Mike (and all),
It is very much possible for the SGM to be better, even considerably so. But part of the fun of this hobby is to experiment with new things, and this is a perfect scenario, where experimentation can actually be done on the cheap, since you already have some of the requisite gear. Doesn't happen that often, does it?
It is very much possible for the SGM to be better, even considerably so. But part of the fun of this hobby is to experiment with new things, and this is a perfect scenario, where experimentation can actually be done on the cheap, since you already have some of the requisite gear. Doesn't happen that often, does it?
Mike (and all),
It is very much possible for the SGM to be better, even considerably so. But part of the fun of this hobby is to experiment with new things, and this is a perfect scenario, where experimentation can actually be done on the cheap, since you already have some of the requisite gear. Doesn't happen that often, does it?
no it doesn't. just hard to know what is minimal to make sure that the NAS has the power by itself to show what it's potential is without the SGM. that's where your feel and experience and my son's techie views will have to guide me. if i have a problem it will be my son's to solve. so he tends to overkill the spec so i don't bother him (why we have a mirroring 30tb NAS in the house so he knows the back up is solid......already saved him once when the Russkie hackers corrupted my last NAS).
As indicated I have isolated the electrical noise in my home network from my room by using fiber optics to convey the network signal with light not electricity. (It is my understanding based an many comparisons on CA this is superior to inline ethernet filters.) My comparo will be to see if the media converter which converts light back to electricity for the last ethernet leg to the dac creates noise that can be cleaned up by the isolated ethernet ports of a server, but, more importantly, my comparo will be to see if a roon core optimized for low noise, processing headroom and grounding will be superior to the nas as a roon core.
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