I guess the idiot mentioned by Romy is our own Steve. He is a annoying character that Romy fellow, talk about idiot !
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Idiotsyncrasys
Except that he isn’t an “idiot”
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Who read the article above about the Lamm L1 and Lamm L2 preamps knows how high I prize the effect of spacious reengineering that Lamm preamps do. I call it the X-factor and was not familiar what it was and hot it was accomplished. Obviously it was done somehow by phase’s manipulation but what exactly it was I do not know up to the few days ago.
A few week ago learning how the pro audio spatial expanders work and familiarizing myself with third sound I detect that in the very-very minor and very precise depth of this affect the sound coming after the spatial expander very much reminds me what Lamm’s SS preamps did to sound. Even some problems that spatial expanders had were very typical for the L1/L2 preamps.
Briefly: a spatial expander is a mechanism of artificially creates spacious more sound. A spatial expander does not generate more realistic sound, but more pleasant sound. The spatial effects are accomplished by mixing into each channel an inverted crossfeed signal from the opposite channel to vary the presence of the mono signal. The effect widens the soundstage, create a separation between the instruments, “inverts” tones by injecting into them a small particulates of own out-of-phaseiness and has some other subjectively pleasing effects. The tradeoff is reduced focus and loss of bass, because bass signals tend to be monaural.
So, if you add to the spatial expander’s characteristics the L1-L2 this dally degrading transients capacity and dally incising dynamic compression due to the faulty designed powers supply (unless you are wiling to change the tubes in there weekly and I suggest above) then you have a have very clear depicture of the L1/L2. A couple days ago when I was contemplation it I had a conversation withy a guy that I know to whom I shared my views about the spatial expander and Lamm SS preamps. After listing me he said proposed that in such case the L1/L2 should perform better and be more transparent in bass region if it switched in mono. He, owning the L1 and L2 did report that it was his observation in past that mono music sounds better on Lamm’s preamp. It was very promising. Today the same guy went to a listening room of another person who has cruelly L1 with mono switch bult-in and they made an experiment playing music and flipping the mono switch. The reported that bass become much better in mono setting… the way how it should be in case the spatial expander was used.
Well, it looks like the secret of the X-factor is resolved. Unquestionably it was very good Lamm’s intention with L1 and L2 but unfortunately it was not implemented at the level of the serious listeners might demand. I wonder if would be possible to replicate that X factor (sponsored by the spatial expander effect) only at the more demanding level?
Rgs,
Romy the Cat“
Ron mentioned “the four box Lamm preamp”. It is clear from these snippets that Romy had not heard the LL1. He does speculate a lot. I own the L1 and the LL1. They are both excellent. The latter with separate mono boxes achieves greater instrument separation, sense of space, and a more natural bass presentation.
Wow, what a nut, with an obvious Lamm axe to grind !
Someone should put Raul, Carlos and Romy the nut In a room together and make a conspiracy reality show out of it !
1- Remote Control is not good for sound quality
2- the Output impedance of TAD C600 pre is also high at 3.5khz but there is no problem when use it with TAD power amplifier. You can use Lamm pre with Lamm power without any problem
You refered to input impedance or output impedance?
3- The single ended design is better for musicality
I have read these three ideas from good designers
On the contrary ! , from his writings Romy appears to like ‘Some’ Lamm electronics .Wow, what a nut, with an obvious Lamm axe to grind !
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Peter, I read goodsoundclub all the time and I learn from Romy but as you know Romy ideas about audio equipments is different to others, his expectation is high and you see Romy does not like over 97% of audio equipments in this market.
I think when Romy enjoyed his old Lamm ML2 and David @ddk just like Lamm products so I can say Lamm products are different.
Finally all of us have our ears and we can listen and decide.
He might deliver some valid nuggets once in a while, but you have to wade knee high through camel dung to find them.
Just like Carlos and Rauls writing, self important people with too much time available.
Imagine if they started making talking videosHe might deliver some valid nuggets once in a while, but you have to wade knee high through camel dung to find them.
I agree Amir. Romy is an interesting character who built his own five or six way horn speakers. He does love the original ML2. He really likes the L1 preamp. These are early Lamm products from when he got along with Vladimir Lamm. He also really likes Micro Seiki turntables. He has very strong opinions, just like many of us in this hobby. I enjoyed meeting him and listening to him talk about his love of Bruckner. Romy air conducts more vigorously than does Bonzo.
They would certainly get posted here and watched. Romy came around before you popularized system videos.
I have no idea if he has talking videos. I highly doubt it. Just saying I and others would post them here (if allowed) for viewing. I doubt he has systems videos. His site is old and you popularized system videos after he did his writings on his site.
Yes, you have to choose between listening to music or watching video, i cant be bothered most of the time. Ron should sub-title his, i would watch more often if i could listen to music at the same time.
Peter, I am so sorry if some members of WBF just post negative comments about both Romy and David.
They are not here to answer.
I think both Romy and David have huge experience and there is no need to spread negative vibes.
Every body can read their opinions and they can accept or ignore, it is simple and normal.
They are not here to answer.
I think both Romy and David have huge experience and there is no need to spread negative vibes.
Every body can read their opinions and they can accept or ignore, it is simple and normal.