Should a member be allowed to make a post which is AI generated or AI mixed without disclosing such use of AI as part of the post?

[KPC]

Can one use AI to find if AI content? Seems a bit ironic and humorous

 

[tima]

So if my writing skills were poor and I used AI to "re-write my entire post" to improve the clarity of my post, it's not really an "intent to deceive others into believing I wrote it" as much as it is an intention to provide greater clarity for the reader.

On the other hand ... If your writing skills are poor, I'd wager that your thinking skills are too. Using a robot to avoid that recognition is an attempt to fool your audience. What's the net -- illogical clarity?

 

[Robh3606]

Can one use AI to find if AI content? Seems a bit ironic and humorous

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One need only ask!

Rob

 

[Joel27]

I voted no specifically because I don't care what AI thinks I come to these forums to see what real people think. Although if someone is using AI to paraphrase something then I don't think it really matters.

 

[Iamrael]

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[microstrip]

Steve,

Can we know what was is meant by "AI mixed" in your poll sentence?

Even ChatGPT considers that "The term "AI mixed" is not a widely recognized or standardized term, but it could refer to a few different things depending on the context"

 

[Rensselaer]

To be replaced by AI LOL.

No doubt to be contracted from Russia’s ‘Star Blizzard’, located in Centre 18, St. Petersburg

 

[wil]

I don’t have a problem with someone using AI as a supplement to their human generated post. Just cite it, as you would quoting anything else that’s not written by you.

Using it without doing so is pathetic and disturbing.

 

[italia]

On the other hand ... If your writing skills are poor, I'd wager that your thinking skills are too. Using a robot to avoid that recognition is an attempt to fool your audience. What's the net -- illogical clarity?

Not sure if you're trying to be humorous or serious, but in thinking about a person with poor writing skills who might use AI to provide clarity in his writing, I had a friend in mind. English is his second language, and thus his written (and verbal) skills in English could be considered below average to poor. His thinking skills? He has a PhD in Medical/Surgical Robotics from a leading US university and works in that field for a US based medical products company. Pretty sure no one would consider his thinking skills to be less than Top 1%.

So, I'll take you up on your wager. Maybe you want to double down?

 

[Steve williams]

Steve,

Can we know what was is meant by "AI mixed" in your poll sentence?

Even ChatGPT considers that "The term "AI mixed" is not a widely recognized or standardized term, but it could refer to a few different things depending on the context"

it is a combination of user text intermingled with AI information which has been done here recently if you search some recent threads ....you will see an AI detector summary showing it as AI mixed and a percent given

 

[Mike Lavigne]

it is a combination of user text intermingled with AI information which has been done here recently if you search some recent threads ....you will see an AI detector summary showing it as AI mixed and a percent given

here ya go....

 

[sbo6]

How can you trust the AI content to be correct? You are not referencing an AES paper as an example.

Rob

"One has the right to use resources, hopefully judiciously to contribute."

 

[microstrip]

it is a combination of user text intermingled with AI information which has been done here recently if you search some recent threads ....you will see an AI detector summary showing it as AI mixed and a percent given

Thanks. As you are probably preparing to enhance a behaviour code or rule you should explicit it - IMO we can't have rules that depend on AI analysing posts!

There is a large difference between information obtained using AI techniques - something that is legitim IMO - and text generated by AI, something I consider unethical. We must believe that posters assume the responsibility of posting information obtained using AI and check it. The critical issue is that if asked to support it, the poster will not be able to refer to it with assurance, as the bot easily changes its opinion next time he is asked ...

 

[microstrip]

How can you trust the AI content to be correct? You are not referencing an AES paper as an example.

Rob

You should not trust AI content to be correct - but if you can use it to check if the answer is correct. Surely it assumes you have knowledge about the subject being addressed. I have found that the bot becomes more "intelligent" if we ask it difficult questions and try to contradict it. It seems it "intelligently" evaluates the opponent ...

 

[mtemur]

On the other hand ... If your writing skills are poor, I'd wager that your thinking skills are too. Using a robot to avoid that recognition is an attempt to fool your audience. What's the net -- illogical clarity?

Claiming a correlation between writing skills and intelligence on WBF is rather unfortunate, as English is not the native language of every member. Many knowledgeable contributors may not express themselves fluently in English, but that does not mean they’re stupid.

 

[sbo6]

Thanks. As you are probably preparing to enhance a behaviour code or rule you should explicit it - IMO we can't have rules that depend on AI analysing posts!

There is a large difference between information obtained using AI techniques - something that is legitim IMO - and text generated by AI, something I consider unethical. We must believe that posters assume the responsibility of posting information obtained using AI and check it. The critical issue is that if asked to support it, the poster will not be able to refer to it with assurance, as the bot easily changes its opinion next time he is asked ...

How is this responsibility any different than if someone Googles information and copies / cherry picks it? It's always the poster's responsibility. You own your words, irrespective of the source, makes sense?

 

[treitz3]

So, being unethical and deceiving is okay?

Tom

 

[A-Line]

I voted no .
AI is not "You ".

If you dont disclose , you will end up potentially with 2 Bots discussing / fighting it out.

People with a neuralink implant could be exempted " may be "....

lol

 

[microstrip]

How is this responsibility any different than if someone Googles information and copies / cherry picks it? It's always the poster's responsibility. You own your words, irrespective of the source, makes sense?

Exactly the same responsibility. However if we use our own static sources or sources referenced by google we can have a reasonable expectation they will not change their opinion next time ... Google finds information on the net, does not build on it , although they are now using AI in search - I declined it in my browser !

 

[microstrip]

So, being unethical and deceiving is okay?

Tom

Sorry, it is not what is being questioned. IMO it transcends it - the question is establishing what is (or not) unethical in the use of AI and then how to deal with it.